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Default Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-01-2004 , 03:00 PM






Okay, I think that for our purposes URL forwarding or anything to do
with frames doesn't work well, and I've read that DNS management
(which I can do even though I don't know understand it all) is
slightly better but not perfect. I understand that the best is a 301
redirect (a TRUE 301, not a 302), which I have yet to determine is
possible given our situation, and I have yet to determine whether this
is something we should consider anyway.

I've been told that "domain name aliasing," which would involve only
one company (since theoretically I would do this with GoDaddy domain
names and a GoDaddy hosting account), is something different form 301
and 302 and URL forwarding and all of that. Is aliasing just another
name for something already mentioned and therefore something I'm
already reading about under a different name, or is this something
new? And if it's new, is it good or bad in SE terms?

Incidentally I've been reading that even 301s are not full-proof. I
hear people are having problems with Yahoo.

"Aliasing" is not something I think we need at this point, but we
happen to have domain-names just lying around and I'm curious. (We
have no intention of screwing around with things when we're in the
process of picking ourselves up and dusting ourselves off!)

Jake

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Default Re: Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-01-2004 , 03:17 PM






On 1 Nov 2004 12:00:08 -0800, swervedrivers (AT) comcast (DOT) net
(swervedrivers.com) wrote:

Quote:
Incidentally I've been reading that even 301s are not full-proof. I
hear people are having problems with Yahoo.
Yahoo ignores 301 redirects. Has for several months now. They will
just show the old link/info until you give them a 404 error page for
that URL.

Google is rumored [and I stress the word "rumor"] to consider ignoring
them also.

Something about duplicate content thoughts.

Carol


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Default Re: Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-01-2004 , 04:11 PM





"swervedrivers.com" <swervedrivers (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

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Quote:
I've been told that "domain name aliasing," which would involve only
one company (since theoretically I would do this with GoDaddy domain
names and a GoDaddy hosting account), is something different form 301
and 302 and URL forwarding and all of that. Is aliasing just another
name for something already mentioned and therefore something I'm
already reading about under a different name, or is this something
new? And if it's new, is it good or bad in SE terms?
It is different than a redirect. It is the same server using a different
name.
ServerName staceyssimplestuff.com
ServerAlias www.staceyssimplestuff.com d22351.u23.hostunite.com


Quote:
Incidentally I've been reading that even 301s are not full-proof. I
hear people are having problems with Yahoo.

"Aliasing" is not something I think we need at this point, but we
happen to have domain-names just lying around and I'm curious. (We
have no intention of screwing around with things when we're in the
process of picking ourselves up and dusting ourselves off!)
I wouldn't. Just stick with things you know. What might be good with your
linking is this.

The swervedriver site can say it is a dedicated fan site directory etc. Your
swervedriver.com listing your actorname.com sites, and your actorname.com
sites having links to your mac pages(as this has your info on them) well
most of the pictures, and also the other actorname.com sites. Make it easy
to navigate to where a person doesn't have to go back to much, and
everything can be accessible from your internal pages almost.

This way, you don't have to have redirects and it might work out for you. I
hope this makes some sense.

Stacey




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Default Re: Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-02-2004 , 05:26 AM




"C.W." <from_you (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote

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On 1 Nov 2004 12:00:08 -0800, swervedrivers (AT) comcast (DOT) net
(swervedrivers.com) wrote:

Incidentally I've been reading that even 301s are not full-proof. I
hear people are having problems with Yahoo.

Yahoo ignores 301 redirects. Has for several months now. They will
just show the old link/info until you give them a 404 error page for
that URL.

Google is rumored [and I stress the word "rumor"] to consider ignoring
them also.

Something about duplicate content thoughts.

Carol
how do you check for a 301? i have multiple domains pointing at a single
slot of webspace is this 301?

mark




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Default Re: Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-02-2004 , 07:50 AM



On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:26:19 -0000, "mark | r" <markrush (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

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"C.W." <from_you (AT) nomail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:418698ed.20219527 (AT) news (DOT) prodigy.net...
On 1 Nov 2004 12:00:08 -0800, swervedrivers (AT) comcast (DOT) net
(swervedrivers.com) wrote:

Incidentally I've been reading that even 301s are not full-proof. I
hear people are having problems with Yahoo.

Yahoo ignores 301 redirects. Has for several months now. They will
just show the old link/info until you give them a 404 error page for
that URL.

Google is rumored [and I stress the word "rumor"] to consider ignoring
them also.

Something about duplicate content thoughts.

Carol

how do you check for a 301? i have multiple domains pointing at a single
slot of webspace is this 301?

mark
This sounds like you'll be caught up in a duplicate filter and have
all but the oldest of these domains banned.

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Default Re: Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-03-2004 , 01:09 PM



Crap. I just put in a 301 so that our site always comes up as www. Grrr....

from_you (AT) nomail (DOT) com (C.W.) wrote in message news:<418698ed.20219527 (AT) news (DOT) prodigy.net>...

Quote:
Yahoo ignores 301 redirects. Has for several months now. They will
just show the old link/info until you give them a 404 error page for
that URL.

Google is rumored [and I stress the word "rumor"] to consider ignoring
them also.

Something about duplicate content thoughts.

Carol

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Default Re: Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-03-2004 , 01:11 PM



All ist klar. ) Danke! ) P ) !!!

"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote in message news:

Quote:
It is different than a redirect. It is the same server using a different
name.
ServerName staceyssimplestuff.com
ServerAlias www.staceyssimplestuff.com d22351.u23.hostunite.com

Quote:
I wouldn't. Just stick with things you know. What might be good with your
linking is this.

The swervedriver site can say it is a dedicated fan site directory etc. Your
swervedriver.com listing your actorname.com sites, and your actorname.com
sites having links to your mac pages(as this has your info on them) well
most of the pictures, and also the other actorname.com sites. Make it easy
to navigate to where a person doesn't have to go back to much, and
everything can be accessible from your internal pages almost.

This way, you don't have to have redirects and it might work out for you. I
hope this makes some sense.

Stacey

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Default Re: Domain name alias-aliasing - 11-05-2004 , 02:20 PM



Stacey, I'm in a grumpy mood and I'm looking for something to complain
about but I have to say I really like the "dedicated fan site
directory" idea. Thanks very much.

We're doing away with all the .coms except swervedrivers. Not sure if
you read this yet but some of the domain names + the Homepages
actually ranked well, despite the fact that hardly any of the content
was indexed. Others didn't do so well. But regardless of my cranking
demeanor I have a very positive attitude about all of this. I can't
remember who exactly it was that first suggested getting our own
domain. You or Carol or Dave or one of the regulars. But it was a damn
good idea. See we had no idea how cheap it was, and first when whoever
it was suggested it we thought it must be that cheap because you don't
get any bandwidth, but we get a fair amount of bandwidth, definitely
enough for text. The next step is figuring the best way to start
posting pictures. We know how to do it in terms of what's good for SEs
but not how to do this easily with Dreamweaver. I know theres a way
but like everything else in life the Dreamweaver manual seems to be
witten for someone who already knows how to use it. There, that';s my
complaint for the day.

See you Carol and thanks again.
Jake

"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote


[regarding aliases]

Quote:
It is different than a redirect. It is the same server using a different
name.
ServerName staceyssimplestuff.com
ServerAlias www.staceyssimplestuff.com d22351.u23.hostunite.com

I wouldn't. Just stick with things you know. What might be good with your
linking is this.

The swervedriver site can say it is a dedicated fan site directory etc. Your
swervedriver.com listing your actorname.com sites, and your actorname.com
sites having links to your mac pages(as this has your info on them) well
most of the pictures, and also the other actorname.com sites. Make it easy
to navigate to where a person doesn't have to go back to much, and
everything can be accessible from your internal pages almost.

This way, you don't have to have redirects and it might work out for you. I
hope this makes some sense.

Stacey

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