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Default Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 07:11 AM






Does google see mirror sites? What does it do to them?



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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 07:27 AM







"Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote

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Does google see mirror sites? What does it do to them?


Yes - it usually ignores one of them., In the worst case it may ignore both.




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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 01:59 PM



How does Google know which site to drop?


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Does google see mirror sites? What does it do to them?

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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 02:02 PM






"Selective Angel" <selective_angel (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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How does Google know which site to drop?


It doesn't, that is how you can lose both. It sometimes keeps the 1st one
that was indexed.

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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 02:44 PM



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It doesn't, that is how you can lose both. It sometimes keeps the 1st one
that was indexed.
This kind of situation/possibility opens some new grounds for "abuse" I
think.

If someone want to make sure competition's life is hard, just get some
suspicious hosting service, host there few copies of competitor's site and
then make sure all copys gets submitted to google...

I think google should stick on keeping 1st indexed site, or otherwise it
would be too easily possible to abuse system. Not that I'd know what google
does Just that logic seems/should be on the side of keeping 1st indexed
site.




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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 03:07 PM






"Wÿrm" <nomailstodragon (AT) north (DOT) com> wrote

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It doesn't, that is how you can lose both. It sometimes keeps the 1st
one
that was indexed.

This kind of situation/possibility opens some new grounds for "abuse" I
think.

If someone want to make sure competition's life is hard, just get some
suspicious hosting service, host there few copies of competitor's site and
then make sure all copys gets submitted to google...

I think google should stick on keeping 1st indexed site, or otherwise it
would be too easily possible to abuse system. Not that I'd know what
google
does Just that logic seems/should be on the side of keeping 1st indexed
site.


This has been done before. And people have complained that their site was
copied. These sites can be removed if the person of the original site
complains under the Digital Millennium Copyright Laws. So, basically someone
still can not get away with that kind of abuse.

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Wÿrm
 
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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 03:13 PM



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This has been done before. And people have complained that their site was
copied. These sites can be removed if the person of the original site
complains under the Digital Millennium Copyright Laws. So, basically
someone
still can not get away with that kind of abuse.
And say, hosting is from china, russia or some other place where they host
about anything without any problems?

I am sure site can be wiped out, but how long it takes before google can
"fix" damage that's done to original site?

It do not take rocket scientist to hide most of trails WHO did get all those
shadow sites up so it would not be easy to find person behind it to sue
them.




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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 03:30 PM





"Wÿrm" <nomailstodragon (AT) north (DOT) com> wrote

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This has been done before. And people have complained that their site
was
copied. These sites can be removed if the person of the original site
complains under the Digital Millennium Copyright Laws. So, basically
someone
still can not get away with that kind of abuse.

And say, hosting is from china, russia or some other place where they host
about anything without any problems?

I am sure site can be wiped out, but how long it takes before google can
"fix" damage that's done to original site?

It do not take rocket scientist to hide most of trails WHO did get all
those
shadow sites up so it would not be easy to find person behind it to sue
them.


True, it can be hard to sue people for that. But, Google will still remove
those sites that are still in violation. If Google is warned in advance
before anything happens then, it should take that long. Some bad sites have
been removed before the good sites get removed.

I had a site copy my title and description for a page that had nothing on
it. I luckily got the person to remove it. I threatened him with the contact
of the SE"s.

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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 03:40 PM



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True, it can be hard to sue people for that. But, Google will still remove
those sites that are still in violation. If Google is warned in advance
before anything happens then, it should take that long. Some bad sites
have
been removed before the good sites get removed.
Yea, but I think there's always some risk if Google does remove both (or
all) copysites. Simplest would be wipe out all but one that got 1st indexed,
and even that is not 100% foolproof anyway


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I had a site copy my title and description for a page that had nothing on
it. I luckily got the person to remove it. I threatened him with the
contact
of the SE"s.
Good, Lucky you Heh, I am "pessimist" so I expect always worst and see
things maybe too grim most of times, hehe




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Default Re: Does google see mirror sites? - 05-06-2004 , 03:48 PM



I have a friend... yes... a friend... my umm... friend has a web site
which has, for perfectly honest reasons which are not relevant to this
discussion, three mirror sites.

Two of those mirror sites seem to rank fairly well.

And... all the mirrors link back to the main site, giving it a PR boost.

Heck, they are even mirroring the AdSense ads.

Back in the old days of oh... about 5 years ago mirroring of important
Internet documents was very common. This started with FTP and then
expanded to Gopher and then to the World Wide Web.

I wonder how many copies of RFC1900 there are on the web?

Does anyone seriously believe Google could limit this to just one?

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