Dmoz not accepting any submission.

Looks like now it is neccessary to be a editor to submit site at dmoz.
It's asking for editor login when submitting a new site.

On 6 Dec 2004 02:15:32 -0800, rajatr (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Looks like now it is neccessary to be a editor to submit site at dmoz.
It's asking for editor login when submitting a new site.

The sooner Dmoz becomes lost and forgotten the fucking better.
Pack of useless cunts.

<rajatr (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Looks like now it is neccessary to be a editor to submit site at dmoz.
It's asking for editor login when submitting a new site.

It is a system fault


http://resource-zone.com/forum/showt...732#post140732

On 6 Dec 2004 02:15:32 -0800, rajatr (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Looks like now it is neccessary to be a editor to submit site at dmoz.
It's asking for editor login when submitting a new site.

I've just had something very strange happen with a listed site of
mine.

In June http://mark-twain.classic-literature.co.uk/ was listed at
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Worl...y/Twain,_Mark/
and given a Cool Site Award (got a yellow star).

Today the site is gone from the above page, you can still find the
listing via a search
http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/searc...FTwain%2C_Mark

So a site that was good enough to receive an award less than 6 months
ago, today isn't worthy of even a listing!!

Seems very suspicious to me. I've had a link problem with the owner of
another site listed in the directory (at another site, my links
replaced with theirs) and suspect they have managed to delete my link!

Can DMOZ editors see who deleted a link from a category? If so could
someone check who deleted my sites link from the above and let me know
(the email address of this post is valid).

I always thought people exaggerated about corruption at DMOZ, but now
I'm not so sure. If it was just a site with no award it could be the
site wasn't good enough, but to go from award winning to not listed
doesn't sound right, especially when you check the other sites listed
and find one no longer exists and another has moved!

Irritating thing is I'm probably sending the page far more PR/benefit
via the PR6 link at the base of
http://mark-twain.classic-literature.co.uk/ than I get back from the
PR5 page (was PR4 before I linked to it) with over 50 links from it.

David
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Same thing happened to me with all of my sites listed at dmoz, just
checked. The sites are still indexed there but not at the sub
categories. One cat was a pr7 that one of my sites was listed at so I
hope it's just a dmoz bug. It may be because it says last edit was on
Feb 2003 and I had my site added at that pr7 cat in May of 2004 so
something is messed up there. Also the cat dropped from a pr7 to a pr5.



SEO Dave wrote:

On 6 Dec 2004 02:15:32 -0800, rajatr (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Looks like now it is neccessary to be a editor to submit site at dmoz.
It's asking for editor login when submitting a new site.

I've just had something very strange happen with a listed site of
mine.

In June http://mark-twain.classic-literature.co.uk/ was listed at
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Worl...y/Twain,_Mark/
and given a Cool Site Award (got a yellow star).

Today the site is gone from the above page, you can still find the
listing via a search
http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/searc...FTwain%2C_Mark

So a site that was good enough to receive an award less than 6 months
ago, today isn't worthy of even a listing!!

Seems very suspicious to me. I've had a link problem with the owner of
another site listed in the directory (at another site, my links
replaced with theirs) and suspect they have managed to delete my link!

Can DMOZ editors see who deleted a link from a category? If so could
someone check who deleted my sites link from the above and let me know
(the email address of this post is valid).

I always thought people exaggerated about corruption at DMOZ, but now
I'm not so sure. If it was just a site with no award it could be the
site wasn't good enough, but to go from award winning to not listed
doesn't sound right, especially when you check the other sites listed
and find one no longer exists and another has moved!

Irritating thing is I'm probably sending the page far more PR/benefit
via the PR6 link at the base of
http://mark-twain.classic-literature.co.uk/ than I get back from the
PR5 page (was PR4 before I linked to it) with over 50 links from it.

David
--
http://www.search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk/

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:42:02 GMT, SEO Dave
<seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

On 6 Dec 2004 02:15:32 -0800, rajatr (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Looks like now it is neccessary to be a editor to submit site at dmoz.
It's asking for editor login when submitting a new site.

I've just had something very strange happen with a listed site of
mine.

Someone visited?

BB

In June http://mark-twain.classic-literature.co.uk/ was listed at
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Worl...y/Twain,_Mark/
and given a Cool Site Award (got a yellow star).

Today the site is gone from the above page, you can still find the
listing via a search
http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/searc...FTwain%2C_Mark

So a site that was good enough to receive an award less than 6 months
ago, today isn't worthy of even a listing!!

Seems very suspicious to me. I've had a link problem with the owner of
another site listed in the directory (at another site, my links
replaced with theirs) and suspect they have managed to delete my link!

Can DMOZ editors see who deleted a link from a category? If so could
someone check who deleted my sites link from the above and let me know
(the email address of this post is valid).

I always thought people exaggerated about corruption at DMOZ, but now
I'm not so sure. If it was just a site with no award it could be the
site wasn't good enough, but to go from award winning to not listed
doesn't sound right, especially when you check the other sites listed
and find one no longer exists and another has moved!

Irritating thing is I'm probably sending the page far more PR/benefit
via the PR6 link at the base of
http://mark-twain.classic-literature.co.uk/ than I get back from the
PR5 page (was PR4 before I linked to it) with over 50 links from it.

David

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 20:38:04 GMT, Big Bill <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk>
wrote:

I've just had something very strange happen with a listed site of
mine.

Someone visited?

BB

Funnily enough yes, about 5000 visitors a day to the literature site.
The Mark Twain section received on average 509 unique visitors a day
in November, up from 457 in October.

What's your stats like Bill, are you in double figure visitor numbers
a day yet?

David
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http://www.search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk/

"SEO Dave" <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
message news:d499r012juo1bvnu4umne0rcq0ejcimb0d (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...

On 6 Dec 2004 02:15:32 -0800, rajatr (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Seems very suspicious to me. I've had a link problem with the owner of
another site listed in the directory (at another site, my links
replaced with theirs) and suspect they have managed to delete my link!

Can DMOZ editors see who deleted a link from a category? If so could
someone check who deleted my sites link from the above and let me know
(the email address of this post is valid).

I always thought people exaggerated about corruption at DMOZ
David

1) People do exaggerate about corruption in DMOZ. I see little evidence of
it. Although I offer SEO services and am an editor for a small category, I
add sites without fear or favour. I have clients who don't fit my category,
but I submit via the public forms. Some get in some don't. Thats just the
way it is. You will find some of my professional competitors in the cat I
edit.

2) Your site is in the index, no-one has deleted it. Probably a glitch.

Chill out!

--
Andy

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:42:02 GMT, SEO Dave
<seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

I've just had something very strange happen with a listed site of
mine.

In June http://mark-twain.classic-literature.co.uk/ was listed at
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Worl...y/Twain,_Mark/
and given a Cool Site Award (got a yellow star).

Today the site is gone from the above page, you can still find the
listing via a search
http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/searc...FTwain%2C_Mark

So a site that was good enough to receive an award less than 6 months
ago, today isn't worthy of even a listing!!

I emailed the original DMOZ editor (who gave the listing and award)
and CCd the email to a DMOZ email address and explained the unusual
change.

Not heard back, but the listing is back at
http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Worl...y/Twain,_Mark/

The email I sent listed a couple of entries that are out of date/404'd
and those are gone, so someone read the email and acted rather than a
bug that got sorted by itself.

I guess someone who considers my site competition removed the listing
since the cat has no specific editor and is quite deep, so plenty of
editors higher up with access.

It is a shame there are editors like that, but it is also good to know
there are editors who don't use it as their personal link directory.
For example the original editor who listed the site and gave it the
award had nothing to gain by doing so and whoever re listed the site
did so quickly.

David
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http://www.search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk/

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:30:47 -0000, "The Smiths" <andy (AT) runtimeuk (DOT) com>
wrote:

"SEO Dave" <seodave (AT) search-engine-optimization-services (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
snip
I always thought people exaggerated about corruption at DMOZ
David

1) People do exaggerate about corruption in DMOZ. I see little evidence of
it. Although I offer SEO services and am an editor for a small category, I
add sites without fear or favour. I have clients who don't fit my category,
but I submit via the public forms. Some get in some don't. Thats just the
way it is. You will find some of my professional competitors in the cat I
edit.

Hi,

You have to admit there are editors who aren't like this and will only
add their own sites and exclude and even delete competitors sites?

2) Your site is in the index, no-one has deleted it. Probably a glitch.

It was deleted. As I posted later in the thread I emailed the original
editor who added the site (he emailed me at the time it was first
added to say it got an award so had his email address) and ccd it to a
DMOZ email address.

The site is now back. Now it could of been a glitch, except in the
email I pointed out these two links had problems (first 404 error,
second moved).

http://www.boondocksnet.com/twain2k/index.html
http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/forum/twainweb.html

Both of the above are now deleted from the page. So pretty reasonable
to believe either the original editor (that would be my guess) or
someone who got the email at DMOZ went to the cat re listed my site
and removed the other two.

Only other possibility is there was a bug that removed my site and
that was fixed AND someone also acted on the info about the two sites
above in the email I sent. I think this is highly unlikely though.

Chill out!

I am :-)

BTW thanks for the emails, appreciated. You mention there is an audit
trail, so presumably you or any other editor can check when and who
removed the link in the first place and who re listed it. You would
then know for sure what happened in this case.

Thanks again.

David
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http://www.search-engine-optimization-services.co.uk/