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Default links out = bad - 02-06-2008 , 05:22 AM






proof

http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...ink-juice.html

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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-06-2008 , 09:21 AM








"mark r" <markrush (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

LOL! That is proof? You can't link out to everything!

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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-06-2008 , 09:35 AM



mark r schreef:

Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the opinion
of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight bit of
proof that links out are bad.



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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-07-2008 , 05:08 AM



On Feb 6, 2:35 pm, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
Quote:
mark r schreef:

proof

http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...ink-juice.html

Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the opinion
of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight bit of
proof that links out are bad.

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scofff all you ant guys but if i take nofollow off my external links
my site nosedives!

tried it

didnt like it

try it for yourselves!

mark


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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-07-2008 , 06:01 AM



mark r schreef:
Quote:
On Feb 6, 2:35 pm, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
mark r schreef:

proof
http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...ink-juice.html
Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the opinion
of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight bit of
proof that links out are bad.

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Korte handleiding zoekmachine optimalisatie / gevonden worden:
http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/gevonden-worden.html
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scofff all you ant guys but if i take nofollow off my external links
my site nosedives!

tried it

didnt like it

try it for yourselves!
I don't even have to try it! I already have over 500 external links on 2
of my sites.

Depends on what you are linking. And why!

What do you think would happen if no one would link? Or like you has to
put 'nofollows' on his links?

This is all basics! The internet is *all* about links!


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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-07-2008 , 09:34 AM



"Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:
mark r schreef:
On Feb 6, 2:35 pm, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
mark r schreef:

proof
http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...ink-juice.html
Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the opinion
of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight bit of
proof that links out are bad.

--
Webdesign:http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/
Korte handleiding zoekmachine optimalisatie / gevonden worden:
http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/gevonden-worden.html
Lifestyle - wonen reizen en genieten :http://vision4living.com

scofff all you ant guys but if i take nofollow off my external links
my site nosedives!

tried it

didnt like it

try it for yourselves!

I don't even have to try it! I already have over 500 external links on 2
of my sites.

Depends on what you are linking. And why!

What do you think would happen if no one would link? Or like you has to
put 'nofollows' on his links?

This is all basics! The internet is *all* about links!
I agree with Tonnie. It all depends on what you are linking how many good to
bad ratio and how they link. If you have 500 quality related links you will
do good. Like I said in the other thread try not to worry too much about PR
leakage and link to what looks good.

Stacey



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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-07-2008 , 12:37 PM



On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:08:58 -0800 (PST), mark r <markrush (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
On Feb 6, 2:35 pm, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
mark r schreef:

proof

http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...ink-juice.html

Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the opinion
of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight bit of
proof that links out are bad.

--
Webdesign:http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/
Korte handleiding zoekmachine optimalisatie / gevonden worden:
http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/gevonden-worden.html
Lifestyle - wonen reizen en genieten :http://vision4living.com

scofff all you ant guys but if i take nofollow off my external links
my site nosedives!

tried it

didnt like it

try it for yourselves!

mark
Coincidence.

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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-07-2008 , 10:39 PM



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Tonnie Lubbers <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote in
news:a8f5$47aae537$d52e9221$22458 (AT) news (DOT) chello.nl:

Quote:
mark r schreef:
On Feb 6, 2:35 pm, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
mark r schreef:

proof
http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...link-juice.htm
l
Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the
opinion of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight
bit of proof that links out are bad.

--
Webdesign:http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/
Korte handleiding zoekmachine optimalisatie / gevonden worden:
http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/gevonden-worden.html Lifestyle -
wonen reizen en genieten :http://vision4living.com

scofff all you ant guys but if i take nofollow off my external links
my site nosedives!

tried it

didnt like it

try it for yourselves!

I don't even have to try it! I already have over 500 external links on
2 of my sites.

Depends on what you are linking. And why!
That's for certain. Links relevant to your overal site or to specific
sections/pages/posts are fine. But if google decides that a link you
put up that doesn't have nofollow on it is one you've been paid to put
up, then your pagerank will drop. I know because I've seen this happen
on a site of mine.. one day pr3, the next day unranked.

Quote:
What do you think would happen if no one would link? Or like you has
to put 'nofollows' on his links?
Google has, according to Matt Cutts and Google's official blog, decreed
that if they think links are sold for the purpose of passing pagerank,
they'll devalue them.

Thing is, it doesn't even matter if you're really doing it or not. All
you need is one twit deciding to use their 'report paid links' page.

Quote:
This is all basics! The internet is *all* about links!
Tell google.


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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-08-2008 , 06:17 AM



Ed schreef:
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Tonnie Lubbers <t.prasing (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote in
news:a8f5$47aae537$d52e9221$22458 (AT) news (DOT) chello.nl:

mark r schreef:
On Feb 6, 2:35 pm, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
mark r schreef:

proof
http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...link-juice.htm
l
Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the
opinion of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight
bit of proof that links out are bad.

--
Webdesign:http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/
Korte handleiding zoekmachine optimalisatie / gevonden worden:
http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/gevonden-worden.html Lifestyle -
wonen reizen en genieten :http://vision4living.com
scofff all you ant guys but if i take nofollow off my external links
my site nosedives!

tried it

didnt like it

try it for yourselves!
I don't even have to try it! I already have over 500 external links on
2 of my sites.

Depends on what you are linking. And why!

That's for certain. Links relevant to your overal site or to specific
sections/pages/posts are fine. But if google decides that a link you
put up that doesn't have nofollow on it is one you've been paid to put
up, then your pagerank will drop. I know because I've seen this happen
on a site of mine.. one day pr3, the next day unranked.
It is your choice to use paid links. It's Googles choice how to handle them.

Quote:
What do you think would happen if no one would link? Or like you has
to put 'nofollows' on his links?

Google has, according to Matt Cutts and Google's official blog, decreed
that if they think links are sold for the purpose of passing pagerank,
they'll devalue them.
Again, you dont have to follow the guidelines, its your choice.

Quote:
Thing is, it doesn't even matter if you're really doing it or not. All
you need is one twit deciding to use their 'report paid links' page.
Yeah right, twits.... Sigh, ranting isn't going to help you.

Quote:
This is all basics! The internet is *all* about links!

Tell google.
I dont have to, they know.

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Default Re: links out = bad - 02-08-2008 , 06:55 AM



On Feb 8, 11:17 am, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
Quote:
Ed schreef:



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Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote in
news:a8f5$47aae537$d52e9221$22458 (AT) news (DOT) chello.nl:

mark r schreef:
On Feb 6, 2:35 pm, Tonnie Lubbers <t.pras... (AT) chello (DOT) nl> wrote:
mark r schreef:

proof
http://www.davidnaylor.co.uk/i-think...link-juice.htm
l
Not even close of proof. Links out is NOT Bad !

What Dave mentions is his messing around with things that might have
killed his link-juice. He did probably do something wrong in the
opinion of Google, or he just screwed up. There is not even a slight
bit of proof that links out are bad.

--
Webdesign:http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/
Korte handleiding zoekmachine optimalisatie / gevonden worden:
http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/gev....htmlLifestyle -
wonen reizen en genieten :http://vision4living.com
scofff all you ant guys but if i take nofollow off my external links
my site nosedives!

tried it

didnt like it

try it for yourselves!
I don't even have to try it! I already have over 500 external links on
2 of my sites.

Depends on what you are linking. And why!

That's for certain. Links relevant to your overal site or to specific
sections/pages/posts are fine. But if google decides that a link you
put up that doesn't have nofollow on it is one you've been paid to put
up, then your pagerank will drop. I know because I've seen this happen
on a site of mine.. one day pr3, the next day unranked.

It is your choice to use paid links. It's Googles choice how to handle them.

What do you think would happen if no one would link? Or like you has
to put 'nofollows' on his links?

Google has, according to Matt Cutts and Google's official blog, decreed
that if they think links are sold for the purpose of passing pagerank,
they'll devalue them.

Again, you dont have to follow the guidelines, its your choice.

Thing is, it doesn't even matter if you're really doing it or not. All
you need is one twit deciding to use their 'report paid links' page.

Yeah right, twits.... Sigh, ranting isn't going to help you.

This is all basics! The internet is *all* about links!

Tell google.

I dont have to, they know.

--
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http://vision2form.nl/webontwerp/gevonden-worden.html
Lifestyle - wonen reizen en genieten :http://vision4living.com
i fully understand that linking to other websites is what the nets all
about but what im saying is that based on my experience and the
resulting shift in serps links out from your website are detrimental
to your position.

i really do suggest you try it and see for your self before making
daft comments.

mark


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