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Re: crit my seo -
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:14:18 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com" webmail (AT) seowebmarket (DOT) com> wrote: On Feb 2, 7:32 am, "Jezsta Web Productions" wrote: what are those rankings? As if that were any of your business . . . Should be anyone's business as that is what you do SEO right? You should have it on your site. Only a fool would publish their keywords and ranks, especially to a hostile troll like yourself. Why not, what would be wrong with that? |
Store, it being such an easy SERP with only "cough" 2460 sites using that
phrase. He apparently is one of those SEOs that give clients a false sense
of security with easy SERPs. His site being only a PR2 after almost 2 years
is sad, maybe he needs to do some "juice flowing" techniques. At least he
has figured out that you don't need to submit to the search engines.
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The site you're criticizing had had 436 hits from keywords in the past 30 days. Well... so what? That statement's meaningless unless you give us some context. Were they hard keywords? Was it a one-page site or zillions of pages? |
in 30 days, heck I get a lot more in 1 day.
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EVERYONE with excessive links is adding the "nofollow" attribute to their links. I don't believe that they are. I think you've got the wrong end of the stick here. |
will soon be caught. Google will start looking closely at these nofollows
especially to internal links I am thinking. Think about it if someone thinks
pages in their site are worthless then maybe the site is also.
Google opened a can of worms with the nofollow as it is now being used
improperly because it used as it was intended to do.
Stacey
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Jezsta Web Productions
SEO Tips - Website Design - Marketing
http://jezsta.com/
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Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow, thing is a person can already structure their navigation to control the "juice" per say and still link "out" to other related and such articles. |
Wake up.
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being such an easy SERP with only "cough" 2460 sites using that phrase. |
I only use quotes on maybe 1% of MY keywords and that is usually
because I write them down after they are hit.
YOU ASSUMPTION that I use quotes on all of them is absurd, and again
dumbfounding.
The example I gave was out of 13,500,000 websites and the URL I
provided. Your expertise in SEO must have came out of a cereal box if
you cannot tell the difference between a search with quotes and a
search without. Pros don't use quotes on target keywords while
amateurs like jezsta ASSume that they are standard.
I'll say it again for the pigheaded troll:
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE OP's INTERNAL LINKS -
NOT YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTA, JEZSTA !!
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being such an easy SERP with only "cough" 2460 sites using that phrase. |
Read about SERP competition. You haven't learned the concept yet!
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"Big Bill" <bill (AT) kruse (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:ldgaq3tjvqqlac8uv3a31unqqcp7rf1e85 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 16:14:18 -0800 (PST), "SEOwebMarket.com" webmail (AT) seowebmarket (DOT) com> wrote: On Feb 2, 7:32 am, "Jezsta Web Productions" wrote: what are those rankings? As if that were any of your business . . . Should be anyone's business as that is what you do SEO right? You should have it on your site. Only a fool would publish their keywords and ranks, especially to a hostile troll like yourself. Why not, what would be wrong with that? Because he is afraid that someone will want to go for International Art Store, it being such an easy SERP with only "cough" 2460 sites using that phrase. He apparently is one of those SEOs that give clients a false sense of security with easy SERPs. His site being only a PR2 after almost 2 years is sad, maybe he needs to do some "juice flowing" techniques. At least he has figured out that you don't need to submit to the search engines. The site you're criticizing had had 436 hits from keywords in the past 30 days. Well... so what? That statement's meaningless unless you give us some context. Were they hard keywords? Was it a one-page site or zillions of pages? I don't know 436 hits does he mean actual visits? Plus if it is 436 visits in 30 days, heck I get a lot more in 1 day. snip EVERYONE with excessive links is adding the "nofollow" attribute to their links. I don't believe that they are. I think you've got the wrong end of the stick here. Everyone trying to cheat the system probably BB. Just a linking scheme that will soon be caught. Google will start looking closely at these nofollows especially to internal links I am thinking. Think about it if someone thinks pages in their site are worthless then maybe the site is also. |
wait and see on that one. I think you'd need to be doing it a whole
lot and really, why would you be doing it a whole lot?
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Google opened a can of worms with the nofollow as it is now being used improperly because it used as it was intended to do. |
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"Big Bill" <bill (AT) kruse (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:6qgaq39r3pm3uhkmugrjgg3e2q0ohch436 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions" use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote: LOL! the guy is writing a reply on his own quote . Yeah, I wondered about that, I was having trouble following. Bill let me get you memory to kick in about this guy, |
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Remember you got bad emails(and everyone else) flowing in and he used almost every name in the book. He is a troll almost! Look over at these to refresh your memory. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.i...dbda9ee1806292 http://groups.google.com/group/alt.i...b358c6682bcd85 Mark already has his thought on nofollow and juice flow so don't know why he is asking here. http://www.markrushworth.com/templat...ink.asp?id=205 |
24/7. I got bigger things on my mind, anyway, my eye surgery is
unravelling and my vision has gone bad again. I have to go back to
hospital tomorrow, see what they say about it. My being middle-aged is
against me, here, frankly. But, maybe they can do some relatively
minor restiching. I've been thinking for a time of trying some of that
born-again boxing, you know the thing where 40-year-olds- box with big
pads on their heads. That looks a little ambitious given my current
frailty. One of my friends suggests fencing, and maybe I'll give it a
go. I really miss being physical, you know? I'm back to 23 and a half
stone now too :-(
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Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow, thing is a person can already structure their navigation to control the "juice" per say and still link "out" to other related and such articles. This is just where the nofollow is being abused as we had said it would be when it came out. Now wouldn't controlling the flow of links to make a page more relevant be considered a link scheme? |
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I didn't agree the first time I saw it. When I can get a page to #1 within less than a year's time: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...essories&meta= on a considered difficult SERP http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...ories%22&meta= 6,340,000 ACTUAL pages using that phrase. With a CMS driven site that can not be totally optimized well with coding, and had to use related links only and content text. Then that should prove one thing! The only links nofollowed are the Affiliate and advertised sites. |
sometimes, T&C pages and stuff like them. But if you try to create
link-juice internally by site-wide links, a technique I've always
used, you maybe don't want those links on those pages. Those pages
need to be out of the loop.
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Sure looks better than International Art Store huh?:-) |
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Anchor text is still weighed highly on pages as with all my sites, there are many links that have been changed as far as gaining any credit from. I have already mentioned that here. Too many directories, blogs, Squidoos, and such. |
long-tail for five minutes.
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Links from actual sites still are the best, and a site still needs links and should still link out to related sites. |
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Let's think about it, what would happen if no one linked out? Hmm, and all they did was nofollow? The web needs links to get around. If you think that a page is worth going to then a person should link to it with no worries. This whole scare about linking out to sites and trying to stop flow internally with nofollow is going in the wrong direction. |
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I haven't seen any proof of the nofollowing links to make pages better, only talk. An SEO needs to use proven ways to make it, they can test other sites with things, but to say something is what needs to be done without proof or warrant then it is not a technique one should be telling someone to use! Stacey |
personally. and of course I have to use my judgement with my clients.
But it's not like we give guarantees here.
BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/
http://www.fat-odin.com/
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/
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On Feb 3, 7:24*am, "Jezsta Web Productions" wrote: Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow, thing is a person can already structure their navigation to control the "juice" per say and still link "out" to other related and such articles. YOU are the only one in this thread discussing OUTBOUND LINKS genius. Wake up. |
myself.
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On Feb 2, 7:12*pm, "Jezsta Web Productions" <use-our-email- f... (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote: "SEOwebMarket.com" <webm... (AT) seowebmarket (DOT) com> wrote in message Your ad hominem attack is in "bad taste" and it's also very immature. You were . . . you came . . . You obviously helps you. You really need to read your pages. . . . you need to you need to get that out of your head your site you need to learn you really are Didn't get the hint eh? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem This thread is about the OP, NOFOLLOW and "Juice Flow". not to be confused with what jezsta needs: http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...ct+right+juice It's obvious to ME that the OP (whom this thread is actually ABOUT) is referencing the recent algorithm changes that have been being discussed over the past months regarding NOFOLLOW and "Juice Flow". jezsta's initial question "Why would you do that?" makes it pretty obvious that she doesn't know what she's talking about. It's also obvious that she shouldn't be trusted because she's bragging about "reciprocal cross linking" (in a thread about INTERNAL linking) at a time when EXTERNAL linking is under great speculation as the cause of many sites that have dropped out of the SERPs even for their brand names. |
I remember you do that.
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jezsta's advice for the OP to link out to increase ranks is absurd and dumbfounding. |
and useful sites.
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I'm pretty sure the OP was talking about his OWN "seo" when HE titled this thread. jezsta should go buy herself some dolls to take her aggressions out on |
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if she doesn't have anything productive to do with her time (other than wasting ours). I know I have lots of work to do. |
BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/
http://www.fat-odin.com/
http://www.here-be-posters.co.uk/
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:21:16 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions" use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote: snip |
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Google opened a can of worms with the nofollow as it is now being used improperly because it used as it was intended to do. Er.. you went Stacey on me there. |
It isn't used as it is suppose to be for some. How's that?
Stacey
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Jezsta Web Productions
SEO Tips - Website Design - Marketing
http://jezsta.com/
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:24:58 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions" Please-use-our-contact-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote: "Big Bill" <bill (AT) kruse (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:6qgaq39r3pm3uhkmugrjgg3e2q0ohch436 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 02:12:37 +0100, "Jezsta Web Productions" use-our-email-form (AT) jezsta (DOT) com> wrote: LOL! the guy is writing a reply on his own quote . Yeah, I wondered about that, I was having trouble following. Bill let me get you memory to kick in about this guy, It's ok, I remember anyway. I just don't get het up the way you do. |
it bother me too much. My sinuses hurt too much for that. That is why I am
ignoring most of what he says by snipping most of it away, and one posting I
am not even bothering.
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Mark already has his thought on nofollow and juice flow so don't know why he is asking here. http://www.markrushworth.com/templat...ink.asp?id=205 How do you have the time to look all this stuff up? Jeez... |
anything as long as it is on the internet, and it doesn't take me too long
sometimes. There are times I couldn't be bothered. It is also good use of
query phrases.:-) That is why my family always asks me to do the
searching.:-)
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I'm busy 24/7. I got bigger things on my mind, anyway, my eye surgery is unravelling and my vision has gone bad again. I have to go back to hospital tomorrow, see what they say about it. My being middle-aged is against me, here, frankly. But, maybe they can do some relatively minor restiching. I've been thinking for a time of trying some of that born-again boxing, you know the thing where 40-year-olds- box with big pads on their heads. That looks a little ambitious given my current frailty. One of my friends suggests fencing, and maybe I'll give it a go. I really miss being physical, you know? I'm back to 23 and a half stone now too :-( |
us know when you are back and OK! How about dancing? There is nothing wrong
with being 40, wish I was there again.:-)
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Now I do know about link flow and why people are using the nofollow, thing is a person can already structure their navigation to control the "juice" per say and still link "out" to other related and such articles. This is just where the nofollow is being abused as we had said it would be when it came out. Now wouldn't controlling the flow of links to make a page more relevant be considered a link scheme? I use nofollow to funnel PR a little but I'm cautious with it. |
worried about PR, once I just started to link without worry rankings started
better on my newer sites and they got PR good also. I do try and keep the
linking slowly though and no major link action.
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I didn't agree the first time I saw it. When I can get a page to #1 within less than a year's time: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...essories&meta= on a considered difficult SERP http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...ories%22&meta= 6,340,000 ACTUAL pages using that phrase. With a CMS driven site that can not be totally optimized well with coding, and had to use related links only and content text. Then that should prove one thing! The only links nofollowed are the Affiliate and advertised sites. Yeah, I agree to use nofollow on them. I use it on contact us pages sometimes, T&C pages and stuff like them. But if you try to create link-juice internally by site-wide links, a technique I've always used, you maybe don't want those links on those pages. Those pages need to be out of the loop. |
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Sure looks better than International Art Store huh?:-) I'll take your word. |
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Anchor text is still weighed highly on pages as with all my sites, there are many links that have been changed as far as gaining any credit from. I have already mentioned that here. Too many directories, blogs, Squidoos, and such. I think they can be good for five-minute fame. Top ranks for extreme long-tail for five minutes. |
much, and wordpress will terminate blogs now for high usage of them for
artificially link ranking purposes. I have personally seen this happen to
someone. She lost 6 blogs and one had a PR of 5. Plus these blogs had a lot
of info on them. She is still Squidoo happy.
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Links from actual sites still are the best, and a site still needs links and should still link out to related sites. Oh I agree with that. |
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Let's think about it, what would happen if no one linked out? Hmm, and all they did was nofollow? The web needs links to get around. If you think that a page is worth going to then a person should link to it with no worries. This whole scare about linking out to sites and trying to stop flow internally with nofollow is going in the wrong direction. They're idiots. |
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I haven't seen any proof of the nofollowing links to make pages better, only talk. An SEO needs to use proven ways to make it, they can test other sites with things, but to say something is what needs to be done without proof or warrant then it is not a technique one should be telling someone to use! I'll advise on what seems sensible even if I haven't done it personally. and of course I have to use my judgement with my clients. But it's not like we give guarantees here. |
it proven, but I am not going to waste my time until someone shows some
decent proof that it may work. So right now I just use things I know that
works.:-)
Stacey
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Jezsta Web Productions
SEO Tips - Website Design - Marketing
http://jezsta.com/
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