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Default cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 03:25 AM






What is a difference between those tips? The synonim is that both are spam
and are forbidden.




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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 06:47 AM






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What is a difference between those tips? The synonim is that both
are spam and are forbidden.
Which tips?

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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 07:14 AM



cloaking is using some system to hide code or content from a user, and
deliver custom content to a search engine spider.

doorawy page - A page designed as an entrance to a website. Many doorway
pages a specifically created to rank high on a particular search engine.

what software people use to cloak?




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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 09:14 AM



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cloaking is using some system to hide code or content from a user, and
deliver custom content to a search engine spider.

doorawy page - A page designed as an entrance to a website. Many
doorway pages a specifically created to rank high on a particular
search engine.
Thank you.

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what software people use to cloak?
That's a bit like asking which card writers people are using to carry out
their credit card frauds.

Cloaking isn't simply a question of installing software - your server has to
be set up to provide different pages depending on whether the request has
come from a normal visitor or a SE spider. You need conditional alternative
pages and a list of all the spiders for which the spider-optimised pages
should be served.

The logical structure is like this:
If IP request = google(Spider IP) then show optimised.html
If IP request = unknown (not a spider) then show proper.html

And if you get it wrong, you're in big trouble. What about the day when one
of the Google spiders changes its identity or there's a new one introduced?
Suddenly Google's got two fundamentally different pages indexed for the same
URL - they aren't daft.

It's a dangerous and highly skilled bit of deception; with respect, if
you're asking here, you probably shouldn't be contemplating it.

And that's just the practicalities - we haven't mentioned ethics...

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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 10:34 AM




please loo at that query, nine and 10 position, no such word in site, no
inbound links with this word.

http://www.google.pl/search?q=kretyn...j+z+Google&lr=

(be carefull it is porno site!)

what is going on? it is all spam, but what is it, ip cloaking? I am shure
it is not user agent cloaking.





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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:14:16 +0200, "Yallotour"
nospam (AT) nomail (DOT) noproblem> wrote:

cloaking is using some system to hide code or content from a user, and
deliver custom content to a search engine spider.

doorawy page - A page designed as an entrance to a website. Many doorway
pages a specifically created to rank high on a particular search engine.

what software people use to cloak?

The kind you buy at www.fantomaster.com/

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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 10:44 AM



On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:14:16 +0200, "Yallotour"
<nospam (AT) nomail (DOT) noproblem> wrote:

Quote:
cloaking is using some system to hide code or content from a user, and
deliver custom content to a search engine spider.

doorawy page - A page designed as an entrance to a website. Many doorway
pages a specifically created to rank high on a particular search engine.

what software people use to cloak?
The kind you buy at www.fantomaster.com/

BB



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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 11:38 AM



Yallotour wrote in
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please loo at that query, nine and 10 position, no such word in site,
no inbound links with this word.


http://www.google.pl/search?q=kretyn...j+z+Google&lr=

It's not an area that I'd want to spend a long time examining but the site
is showing 3020 backlinks.

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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 11:51 AM



i know they have 3020 backlinks but it's no connected with that matter,
check intext: commant

http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&ie...tnG=Szukaj&lr=

it shows that this website has in its content word-"Kretyn"





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It's not an area that I'd want to spend a long time examining but the site
is showing 3020 backlinks.






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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-12-2004 , 02:08 PM



Yallotour wrote in
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It's not an area that I'd want to spend a long time examining but
the site is showing 3020 backlinks.

i know they have 3020 backlinks but it's no connected with that
matter, check intext: commant


http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&ie...tnG=Szukaj&lr=

it shows that this website has in its content word-"Kretyn"
Then that's why it shows up for searches for "Kretyn".

My apologies if I'm being a little stupid here but what's the problem
exactly?

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Default Re: cloaking vs. doorway page - 08-13-2004 , 03:49 AM



there is no problem ;-) the question is how is it done?




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