cloaking?

Type this into Google:
site:webmasterworld.com

Click on some of the results.

This isn't considered a form of cloaking? Google
is obviously not getting the same page that I am getting.
That site consistently gets high rankings and I often run
across their pages.

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote

Type this into Google:
site:webmasterworld.com

Click on some of the results.

This isn't considered a form of cloaking? Google
is obviously not getting the same page that I am getting.
That site consistently gets high rankings and I often run
across their pages.

What is giving you the idea that the forum is cloaking? I see no evidence of
it.

Stacey

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:30:06 +0200, Stacey wrote:

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.13.22.04.11.514679@1.invalid...
Type this into Google:
site:webmasterworld.com

Click on some of the results.

This isn't considered a form of cloaking? Google
is obviously not getting the same page that I am getting.
That site consistently gets high rankings and I often run
across their pages.

What is giving you the idea that the forum is cloaking? I see no evidence of
it.

Stacey

Somehow Google is reading the page content and I am obviously getting a different page than Google is.

I bet if you set your user agent to "Googlebot" you will get a different
page than if you set your user agent to Firefox or a regular browser. I
was under the impression that serving different content to Googlebot than
to your human visitors is cloaking.

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:30:06 +0200, Stacey wrote:

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.13.22.04.11.514679@1.invalid...
Type this into Google:
site:webmasterworld.com

Click on some of the results.

This isn't considered a form of cloaking? Google
is obviously not getting the same page that I am getting.
That site consistently gets high rankings and I often run
across their pages.

What is giving you the idea that the forum is cloaking? I see no evidence
of
it.



Somehow Google is reading the page content and I am obviously getting a
different page than Google is.

You are not getting the page as you are not subscribed to WMW. The pages are
made with a no cache and you can not see the pages unless you login.

I bet if you set your user agent to "Googlebot" you will get a different
page than if you set your user agent to Firefox or a regular browser. I
was under the impression that serving different content to Googlebot than
to your human visitors is cloaking.

What you are seeing is not cloaking.

Stacey

"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.13.22.54.30.444093@1.invalid...

Somehow Google is reading the page content and I am obviously getting
a different page than Google is.

You are not getting the page as you are not subscribed to WMW. The
pages are made with a no cache and you can not see the pages unless
you login.

Uhm, that's cloaking in my book. I mean treating Googlebot as a subscriber.
It *is* misleading the visitor.

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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:25:09 +0000, John Bokma wrote:

"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.13.22.54.30.444093@1.invalid...

Somehow Google is reading the page content and I am obviously getting
a different page than Google is.

You are not getting the page as you are not subscribed to WMW. The
pages are made with a no cache and you can not see the pages unless
you login.

Uhm, that's cloaking in my book. I mean treating Googlebot as a subscriber.
It *is* misleading the visitor.

I would think so. A visit to the site with Googlebot as user agent would
probably confirm it.

wd <n@1.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:25:09 +0000, John Bokma wrote:

"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.13.22.54.30.444093@1.invalid...

Somehow Google is reading the page content and I am obviously
getting a different page than Google is.

You are not getting the page as you are not subscribed to WMW. The
pages are made with a no cache and you can not see the pages unless
you login.

Uhm, that's cloaking in my book. I mean treating Googlebot as a
subscriber. It *is* misleading the visitor.

I would think so. A visit to the site with Googlebot as user agent
would probably confirm it.

Depends, if they cloak based on IP address and Googlebot, you can't confirm
it that way.

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"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote

"Stacey" <stacey (AT) staceyssimplestuff (DOT) com> wrote:

"wd" <n@1.invalid> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.13.22.54.30.444093@1.invalid...

Somehow Google is reading the page content and I am obviously getting
a different page than Google is.

You are not getting the page as you are not subscribed to WMW. The
pages are made with a no cache and you can not see the pages unless
you login.

Uhm, that's cloaking in my book. I mean treating Googlebot as a
subscriber.
It *is* misleading the visitor.

Then I suppose you classify all login forums cloaking then. I feel that it
isn't what Google is worried about and bans you for. Register and login it
is that simple.

Stacey

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 02:25:09 +0200, John Bokma <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com>
wrote:

Somehow Google is reading the page content and I am obviously getting
a different page than Google is.

You are not getting the page as you are not subscribed to WMW. The
pages are made with a no cache and you can not see the pages unless
you login.

Uhm, that's cloaking in my book. I mean treating Googlebot as a
subscriber. It *is* misleading the visitor.

As long as the stuff is freely available (ie you have to register,
but you don't have to pay) that's not the worst thing that may happen.
What I hate is Google showing results from the sites that are not
available without paid subscription.

But I agree with John - technically speaking it is cloaking.

Best,
Borek
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