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Mike Berg
 
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Default Is this Cheating??? - 09-09-2003 , 05:20 PM






In my css file i have these properties for an H1 tag:

color: #202396;
font-family: times new roman, arial;
font-size: 25pt;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: center;

On one of my pages, I have this in the html

<H1><FONT FACE="times new roman, arial" SIZE="5pt" COLOR="#C00000">PRODUCT NAME
AND DESCRIPTON ARE HERE</font></H1>

Will I be penalized for this by Google?

TIA,
Mike


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Kyle Masters
 
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Default Re: Is this Cheating??? - 09-09-2003 , 06:10 PM






yes...

<H1 "style=font-name:times, arial;font-size:5pt;color:#C00000;"> would be
fine i believe.

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"Mike Berg" <Mike_member (AT) newsguy (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
In my css file i have these properties for an H1 tag:

color: #202396;
font-family: times new roman, arial;
font-size: 25pt;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: center;

On one of my pages, I have this in the html

H1><FONT FACE="times new roman, arial" SIZE="5pt"
COLOR="#C00000">PRODUCT NAME
AND DESCRIPTON ARE HERE</font></H1

Will I be penalized for this by Google?

TIA,
Mike




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Mike
 
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Default Re: Is this Cheating??? - 09-10-2003 , 01:09 AM



Kyle,
So what you're saying is that it's not so much a matter of Google thinking I'm
deliberately trying to manipulate things as much as it is just bad code?
Mike

In article <mds7b.296416$cF.91897@rwcrnsc53>, Kyle Masters says...
Quote:
yes...

H1 "style=font-name:times, arial;font-size:5pt;color:#C00000;"> would be
fine i believe.

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"Mike Berg" <Mike_member (AT) newsguy (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bjlg6902h3q (AT) drn (DOT) newsguy.com...
In my css file i have these properties for an H1 tag:

color: #202396;
font-family: times new roman, arial;
font-size: 25pt;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: center;

On one of my pages, I have this in the html

H1><FONT FACE="times new roman, arial" SIZE="5pt"
COLOR="#C00000">PRODUCT NAME
AND DESCRIPTON ARE HERE</font></H1

Will I be penalized for this by Google?

TIA,
Mike





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Philipp Lenssen
 
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Default Re: Is this Cheating??? - 09-10-2003 , 03:34 AM



Kyle Masters wrote:

Quote:
yes...

H1 "style=font-name:times, arial;font-size:5pt;color:#C00000;"
would be fine i believe.
Except that it's not HTML. And font-sizes shouldn't be given as "pt"
for screen.

In any case, H1 can be altered via CSS without any problem. If the H1
is not an actual header, and just contains lines and lines of product
description, it's cheating. Wether or not Google will penalize at the
moment is up to anyone to risk trying out. I wouldn't. I'd write pages
for my end-users (Googlebot being one of them, but not necessarily the
most important).

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Default Re: Is this Cheating??? - 09-10-2003 , 08:57 AM



On 10 Sep 2003 07:34:16 GMT, "Philipp Lenssen" <info (AT) outer-court (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
If the H1
is not an actual header, and just contains lines and lines of product
description, it's cheating. Wether or not Google will penalize at the
moment is up to anyone to risk trying out.
Hi,

I agree that if you had an H1 tag with lots of keywords it's an
obvious attempt at improving rankings (too many words and it wouldn't
work anyway, but that's another thread).

The thing to do is make your headings still look like headings (but
smaller than standard headings), whilst using them to boost your key
phrases on each page. This can be done quite easily through CSS and a
bit of planning.

David
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Mike Berg
 
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Default Re: Is this Cheating??? - 09-10-2003 , 02:55 PM



In article <bjmk5o$kt6nd$1 (AT) ID-203055 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>, Philipp Lenssen
says...
Quote:
Kyle Masters wrote:

yes...

H1 "style=font-name:times, arial;font-size:5pt;color:#C00000;"
would be fine i believe.

Except that it's not HTML. And font-sizes shouldn't be given as "pt"
for screen.

In any case, H1 can be altered via CSS without any problem. If the H1
is not an actual header, and just contains lines and lines of product
description, it's cheating. Wether or not Google will penalize at the
moment is up to anyone to risk trying out. I wouldn't. I'd write pages
for my end-users (Googlebot being one of them, but not necessarily the
most important).

--
Google Blogoscoped
http://blog.outer-court.com

Thanks. Actually, I never use "pt" on any pages but someone told me to so I
started on this page. To clear it up, the H1 is an actual header. e.g. I sell a
widget and the h1 tag at the top of the page is Smith Widgets. Further down I
have "Smith Widgets: Comparison to Jones' Widgets". I didn't want the text as
big so hence the alteration.
Mike



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