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T.J.
 
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Default Changing URL? - 10-13-2003 , 03:45 PM






I have just changed my products page from
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/3.html
to
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html
for obvious reasons.
The problem is the 3.html page is pr4 and appears in
search engines, as do other pages.
I have changed the source on most pages to direct to
the standard-ramp.html page instead of the 3.html page,
but left the 3.html page live at the moment.
Is it simply a case of waiting until the standard-ramp.html
page gains pr and is picked up by the search engines (at
which stage I will remove the 3.html page), or am I in danger
of being penalised for leaving both versions live with the
same content?




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rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski
 
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Default Re: Changing URL? - 10-13-2003 , 04:39 PM






T.J. wrote:
Quote:
I have just changed my products page from
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/3.html
to
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html
for obvious reasons.
The problem is the 3.html page is pr4 and appears in
search engines, as do other pages.
I have changed the source on most pages to direct to
the standard-ramp.html page instead of the 3.html page,
but left the 3.html page live at the moment.
Is it simply a case of waiting until the standard-ramp.html
page gains pr and is picked up by the search engines (at
which stage I will remove the 3.html page), or am I in danger
of being penalised for leaving both versions live with the
same content?
Why not use a 301 redirect from the old URL to the new one? Leaving
up both is a Bad Thing with search engines.
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Default Re: Changing URL? - 10-13-2003 , 10:09 PM




"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm (AT) KILLSPAMMERSmochamail (DOT) com> wrote in
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Quote:
T.J. wrote:
I have just changed my products page from
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/3.html
to
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html
for obvious reasons.
The problem is the 3.html page is pr4 and appears in
search engines, as do other pages.
I have changed the source on most pages to direct to
the standard-ramp.html page instead of the 3.html page,
but left the 3.html page live at the moment.
Is it simply a case of waiting until the standard-ramp.html
page gains pr and is picked up by the search engines (at
which stage I will remove the 3.html page), or am I in danger
of being penalised for leaving both versions live with the
same content?

Why not use a 301 redirect from the old URL to the new one? Leaving
up both is a Bad Thing with search engines.
--
This will work for Google. Inktomi and Teoma will not follow a 301, so
backlinks will be lost. I am not sure how All the Web handles 301's


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Default Re: Changing URL? - 10-13-2003 , 11:10 PM



Gateway Farm Alpacas wrote:
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"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm (AT) KILLSPAMMERSmochamail (DOT) com
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news:3f8b0d83$0$151$892e7fe2 (AT) authen (DOT) puce.readfreenews.net...

Why not use a 301 redirect from the old URL to the new one?
Leaving up both is a Bad Thing with search engines.

This will work for Google. Inktomi and Teoma will not follow a 301, so
backlinks will be lost. I am not sure how All the Web handles 301's
Better than leaving both pages up.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic drug DXM, including dangers.
Yet another murder by someone on Coricidin:
http://www.coricidin.org/kansas-coricidin-murder.htm




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Default Re: Changing URL? - 10-14-2003 , 04:50 PM




"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm (AT) KILLSPAMMERSmochamail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
T.J. wrote:
I have just changed my products page from
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/3.html
to
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html
for obvious reasons.
The problem is the 3.html page is pr4 and appears in
search engines, as do other pages.
I have changed the source on most pages to direct to
the standard-ramp.html page instead of the 3.html page,
but left the 3.html page live at the moment.
Is it simply a case of waiting until the standard-ramp.html
page gains pr and is picked up by the search engines (at
which stage I will remove the 3.html page), or am I in danger
of being penalised for leaving both versions live with the
same content?

Why not use a 301 redirect from the old URL to the new one? Leaving
up both is a Bad Thing with search engines.
I've tried creating a .htaccess file with

redirect 301 /wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/3.html
http://www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html

but doesn't seem to work.
Can you talk me through creating a 301 direct.
TIA




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Default Re: Changing URL? - 10-14-2003 , 06:49 PM




"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> wrote

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"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm (AT) KILLSPAMMERSmochamail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:3f8b0d83$0$151$892e7fe2 (AT) authen (DOT) puce.readfreenews.net...
T.J. wrote:
I have just changed my products page from
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/3.html
to
www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html
for obvious reasons.
The problem is the 3.html page is pr4 and appears in
search engines, as do other pages.
I have changed the source on most pages to direct to
the standard-ramp.html page instead of the 3.html page,
but left the 3.html page live at the moment.
Is it simply a case of waiting until the standard-ramp.html
page gains pr and is picked up by the search engines (at
which stage I will remove the 3.html page), or am I in danger
of being penalised for leaving both versions live with the
same content?

Why not use a 301 redirect from the old URL to the new one? Leaving
up both is a Bad Thing with search engines.

I've tried creating a .htaccess file with

redirect 301 /wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/3.html
http://www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html

but doesn't seem to work.
Can you talk me through creating a 301 direct.
TIA


Sorted now,
should have been
redirect 301 /3.html http://www.wheelchair-ramps.co.uk/standard-ramps.html

couple more questions though, the old page was pr4
but the new page is greyed out, will it automatically go
to 4 on the next crawl, and is it now safe to delete the
old page?




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Giles Chamberlin
 
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Default Re: Changing URL? - 10-16-2003 , 05:12 AM



"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> writes:
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couple more questions though, the old page was pr4
but the new page is greyed out, will it automatically go
to 4 on the next crawl
Don't have a definitive answer, but that's what happened when I did
this.

Quote:
and is it now safe to delete the old page?
Yes. It can't be accessed via http any more: the server will redirect
the request. So you may as well get rid of it.

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Giles Chamberlin



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Articus
 
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Default Re: Changing URL? - 10-19-2003 , 12:03 AM



what about just creating a new page with new content and keep the old page
in an abbreviated manner?
"Giles Chamberlin" <gchamberlin (AT) ridgewaysystems (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"T.J." <no1 (AT) home (DOT) invalid> writes:
couple more questions though, the old page was pr4
but the new page is greyed out, will it automatically go
to 4 on the next crawl

Don't have a definitive answer, but that's what happened when I did
this.

and is it now safe to delete the old page?

Yes. It can't be accessed via http any more: the server will redirect
the request. So you may as well get rid of it.

--
Giles Chamberlin





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