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Do you redirect the simbolic links to the "real" links? |
file system level, it's an internal redirection.
You're very right that Catherine either should *externally* (301) redirect
the short "phone" URLs to the long ones.
Or like I wrote in my other post, denying Google access to the short ones.
The latter is probably less resource intensive.
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"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Do you redirect the simbolic links to the "real" links? Unless Catherine got her terms wrong, a symbolic link is a redirection on file system level, it's an internal redirection. You're very right that Catherine either should *externally* (301) redirect the short "phone" URLs to the long ones. Or like I wrote in my other post, denying Google access to the short ones. |
How?
By disallowing access for robots to the short ones in the file robots.txt?
For example I could redirect from /sv/italien/ to /sv/europa/italien/ and at the same time
disallow sv/italien
In this case it should not matter whether I use (301) or (302) because the robots would get instructions to disallow the short pages anyway and the users could use either the temporary or the permanent redirect.
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"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Do you redirect the simbolic links to the "real" links? Unless Catherine got her terms wrong, a symbolic link is a redirection on file system level, it's an internal redirection. You're very right that Catherine either should *externally* (301) redirect the short "phone" URLs to the long ones. Or like I wrote in my other post, denying Google access to the short ones. |
Perhaps she wants to have the symbolic links to give adresses on the telephone because they are shorter.
In this case the redirect should be temporary until the links to the new pages have been written in the whole website.
Afterwards there would not be any need for redirect and the robots should be given instructions not to visit the short links by the content in the file robots.txt
This way an user who is no robot could access to both the short and the long links
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"John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet |
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Or like I wrote in my other post, denying Google access to the short ones. How? By disallowing access for robots to the short ones in the file robots.txt? |
Or using mod_rewrite to give Googlebot a forbidden (uses more resources,
in this case you probably redirect, even though it uses a bit more
resources)
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"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: "John Bokma" <john (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet [ Several aliases for one resource ] Or like I wrote in my other post, denying Google access to the short ones. How? By disallowing access for robots to the short ones in the file robots.txt? Yes Or using mod_rewrite to give Googlebot a forbidden (uses more resources, in this case you probably redirect, even though it uses a bit more resources) |
On second thoughts redirection should not be used permanently if she wants to use the symbolic (short) links to read them on the telephone.
Only robots should be forbidden access not users.
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我 是 欧洲人
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Ma õpin eesti keelt
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A symbolic link is something on your web site, it's a file system thingy. -- John Experienced (web) developer: http://castleamber.com/ |
user-friendy language?
Thanks.
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"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote: Do you redirect the simbolic links to the "real" links? Unless Catherine got her terms wrong, a symbolic link is a redirection on file system level, it's an internal redirection. |
years and years ago.
Also, i cannot imagine that the few hand-made symblic links he made can
account for 50 THOUSAND links seen by google. Something else must be
going on. But i have no clue what it is.
cat
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Perhaps she wants to have the symbolic links to give adresses on the telephone because they are shorter. |
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In this case the redirect should be temporary until the links to the new pages have been written in the whole website. Afterwards there would not be any need for redirect and the robots should be given instructions not to visit the short links by the content in the file robots.txt This way an user who is no robot could access to both the short and the long links -- |
You just can't rely on the "secret" status of phone links, so you have
either to 301 redirect them, or kick google away.
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On second thoughts redirection should not be used permanently if she wants to use the symbolic (short) links to read them on the telephone. |
longer version, I can't think of any problem, other then the user
reporting back the longer link over the phone .
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John Bokma wrote: A symbolic link is something on your web site, it's a file system thingy. -- John Experienced (web) developer: http://castleamber.com/ Could you use your experience to explain what you just wrote in more user-friendy language? Thanks. |
I think he means this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_link
See "Storage of symbolic links"
hth
plh
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