Building links by hand-how much?

I am an American that lives in Eastern Europe. I can pay people to
submit links to directories by hand etc. How much do you think is fair
to charge people for this service if the people here work hard and know
what they are doing? Will people pay 5 dollars an hour for such a
service? I can build hundreds of links gradually for people in a fair
way with varied anchor text. This is an idea I am thinking about, but
do not know if people would find hand submission of value. The idea is
not for me to make money, rather give some people here a job (18 %
unemployment) and help people promote their sites. Let me know what
people think...or if you have interest...but I am curious about
pricing. Thanks.

<markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote ...

How much do you think is fair
to charge people for this service if the people here work hard and know
what they are doing? Will people pay 5 dollars an hour for such a
service? I can build hundreds of links gradually for people in a fair
way with varied anchor text. This is an idea I am thinking about, but
do not know if people would find hand submission of value.

They are unlikely to pay by the hour - they want results.

These days, there's a huge industry in site submitting, usually machine
assisted, ussually to a variety of good, bad and pure crap directories.

Which means that quality directories are getting much better at recognising
industrial-strength submissions, and better at blocking whole companies.

It's really a matter of quality control; the submitter needs enough English
to understand the site and its aims, understand the Directory and its
guidelines - and be able to match the two - that means individualized
applications.

It's hard enough for people with English as a first language to do a good
job, let alone someone who speaks little English.

And it's a crowded market - scores of US companies, hundreds of East
European, and thousands of Indian companies have already got in there.

Oh, and you'll need to pay the staff enough to keep them motivated - once
they've dumped 3000 real estate sites into "antique furniture", your
business is on the road to Nowheresville.

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:04:14 -0000, "Andrew Heenan"
<andrew4 (AT) heenan (DOT) net> wrote:

markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote ...
How much do you think is fair
to charge people for this service if the people here work hard and know
what they are doing? Will people pay 5 dollars an hour for such a
service? I can build hundreds of links gradually for people in a fair
way with varied anchor text. This is an idea I am thinking about, but
do not know if people would find hand submission of value.

They are unlikely to pay by the hour - they want results.

These days, there's a huge industry in site submitting, usually machine
assisted, ussually to a variety of good, bad and pure crap directories.

Which means that quality directories are getting much better at recognising
industrial-strength submissions, and better at blocking whole companies.

It's really a matter of quality control; the submitter needs enough English
to understand the site and its aims, understand the Directory and its
guidelines - and be able to match the two - that means individualized
applications.

It's hard enough for people with English as a first language to do a good
job, let alone someone who speaks little English.

And it's a crowded market - scores of US companies, hundreds of East
European, and thousands of Indian companies have already got in there.

Oh, and you'll need to pay the staff enough to keep them motivated - once
they've dumped 3000 real estate sites into "antique furniture", your
business is on the road to Nowheresville.

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Thanks for the reply. It gave me some ideas.
1) Language is no problem as they speak English better than I or most
native English speakers I know, I am an educated American.  . They
are bilingual regarding English and usually speak another 3 languages
in addition because the Universities are taught mostly in English,
which they start learning at 5.
2) Doing things like submitting to the wrong category is unlikely
because the people I would deal with are computer specialist that know
that they are doing or PhD or masters in physics or chemistry or math
with attention to detail. I have lived here for 2 years and at first I
found it hard to believe why someone with this much brainpower would
work for 5 usd and hour, but with 20 % unemployment it’s a reality
because there is a lack of capital to finance economic activity.
3) Again my motive is to help them, not me, make some cash for their
families.
4) If anyone knows of any SEO first that do it cheaper let me know?
Honestly I am curious how they could do this cheaper and better. I am
not an SEO firm. But I have all the software for automatic and semi
automatic submission as I have a few websites. This combined hand
submission, which I think is the best, would perhaps make it worth 5
usd and hour. But again I am honest when I say I do not know the
pricing.
5) So please send links to SEO firms in India or Eastern Europe that
would do a real job, not a gimmicky job so I can evaluate. I never feel
I can trust all these ads I see. If they are really that cheap I will
forget the idea and use people from Asia for my own websites
submissions.

5 dollars an hour? You gonna hire illegal immigrants to start your SE
sweat shop?

How would you like to work for 5 dollars an hour? I could make more
money panhandling on the streets!

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<markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote...
5) So please send links to SEO firms in India or Eastern Europe that
would do a real job, not a gimmicky job so I can evaluate. I never feel
I can trust all these ads I see. If they are really that cheap I will
forget the idea and use people from Asia for my own websites
submissions.

You certainly cannot trust 99% of the 'submit' services out there - that's
the point; it's a dirty industry where you are competing with serious
lowlife plus a few honest folk. That makes success a nebulous concept to
chase!

I regret I cannot suggest any - I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole!

Good Luck.
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Editor
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Directory of Quality Directories
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<homeless.panhandler (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote ...

5 dollars an hour? You gonna hire illegal immigrants to start your SE
sweat shop?
How would you like to work for 5 dollars an hour? I could make more
money panhandling on the streets!

Five dollars an hour is a lot in Eastern Europe, Most of Asia and Africa.
He's talking about setting up in Eastern Europe.

Panhandlers could retire at thirty getting $5 per hour in some countries.
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Editor
http://www.seo2seo.com/
Directory of Quality Directories
"I Don't Know A Lot - But I Know Spam When I See It"