Breaking the PR4 barrier

Hi,

At present, the #1 Google response for the terms community orchestra
massachusetts is http://www.opro.org - which suits me just fine!

Question: We have a PR of 4. What do we need to do to up that? We're
working toward more inbound links. Mind you, we're a non-profit and not a
commercial organization, so there's the thought in the back of my mind
that a PR of 5+ isn't realistic. What do you think? Any suggestions?

Neal wrote:

Hi,

At present, the #1 Google response for the terms community orchestra
massachusetts is http://www.opro.org - which suits me just fine!

Question: We have a PR of 4. What do we need to do to up that? We're
working toward more inbound links. Mind you, we're a non-profit and not
a commercial organization, so there's the thought in the back of my mind
that a PR of 5+ isn't realistic. What do you think? Any suggestions?

My personal home page has a PR of 6 :-D

(My company page a PR of 7)

so yeah, it's possible.

Non-profit is non-profit, has nothing to do how google looks, nor that
you can not pay for SEO ;-)

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:59:46 -0500, John Bokma
<postmaster (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Neal wrote:
Question: We have a PR of 4. What do we need to do to up that? We're
working toward more inbound links. Mind you, we're a non-profit and not
a commercial organization, so there's the thought in the back of my
mind that a PR of 5+ isn't realistic. What do you think? Any
suggestions?

My personal home page has a PR of 6 :-D

(My company page a PR of 7)

so yeah, it's possible.

Great!

Tips??

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> says...

Question: We have a PR of 4. What do we need to do to up that?

Put up content that people want to read and link to.

Neal wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:59:46 -0500, John Bokma
postmaster (AT) castleamber (DOT) com> wrote:

Neal wrote:

Question: We have a PR of 4. What do we need to do to up that? We're
working toward more inbound links. Mind you, we're a non-profit and
not a commercial organization, so there's the thought in the back of
my mind that a PR of 5+ isn't realistic. What do you think? Any
suggestions?


My personal home page has a PR of 6 :-D

(My company page a PR of 7)

so yeah, it's possible.

Great!

Tips??

Hire me ;-) :-D.

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Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
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Question: We have a PR of 4. What do we need to do to up that? We're
working toward more inbound links. Mind you, we're a non-profit and
not a commercial organization, so there's the thought in the back of
my mind that a PR of 5+ isn't realistic. What do you think? Any
suggestions?

Contact the schools, community halls and organisations where you play and
ask for a link from their sites.

Make sure you are listed in all the local information resource sites and
portals, from local radio to parent's groups.

If you get any public funding for your work, check if the funding body will
link to you. Local councils and town sites may be prepared to do so as
well.

Suggest to orchestra members that if they have their own sites or blogs
they might like to link to the site. Get them involved in producing
content: site gets more content, and they feel more ownership.

Building links for community organisations is usually easier than for
commercial sites, because people have goodwill towards you that they don't
have for some guy who just wants to sell more socks. ;-)

Victoria
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"Victoria Clare" <victoria (AT) markpoles (DOT) org.uk> wrote

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
newspr9n7svuk6v6656 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net:


Question: We have a PR of 4. What do we need to do to up that? We're
working toward more inbound links. Mind you, we're a non-profit and
not a commercial organization, so there's the thought in the back of
my mind that a PR of 5+ isn't realistic. What do you think? Any
suggestions?

Contact the schools, community halls and organisations where you play and
ask for a link from their sites.

Make sure you are listed in all the local information resource sites and
portals, from local radio to parent's groups.

If you get any public funding for your work, check if the funding body
will
link to you. Local councils and town sites may be prepared to do so as
well.

Suggest to orchestra members that if they have their own sites or blogs
they might like to link to the site. Get them involved in producing
content: site gets more content, and they feel more ownership.

Building links for community organisations is usually easier than for
commercial sites, because people have goodwill towards you that they don't
have for some guy who just wants to sell more socks. ;-)

Victoria
--
Clare Associates Ltd
http://www.clareassoc.co.uk/
01822 835802
--

I think Victoria hit the proverbial nail on the head. You can also look at
getting links from .edu sources. Google seems to like these sort of links
and often times, they have high PR, low outgoing links per page and can be a
great source of referreals and qualified traffic.

Curiously, why would you want more PR if you are at#1 already? Are you
trying to head off any future competition?

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 07:58:01 -0700, www.seo-highrankings.com
<james.taylor (AT) aicNOomSPpaAMny (DOT) com> wrote:

Curiously, why would you want more PR if you are at#1 already? Are you
trying to head off any future competition?

First, thanks for tips so far. Seems we're pursuing the right course.

As far as higher PR, there are a lot of community orchestras in
Massachusetts, and we're still not among the best known. I figure the
higher the PR, the likelier we'll be higher even if the search isn't
precise to our keywords, and since higher PR is based on quality inbounds,
it certainly makes us more likely to be found.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:54:38 +0100, Victoria Clare
<victoria (AT) markpoles (DOT) org.uk> wrote:

Contact the schools, community halls and organisations where you play and
ask for a link from their sites.

Make sure you are listed in all the local information resource sites and
portals, from local radio to parent's groups.

If you get any public funding for your work, check if the funding body
will
link to you. Local councils and town sites may be prepared to do so as
well.

Suggest to orchestra members that if they have their own sites or blogs
they might like to link to the site. Get them involved in producing
content: site gets more content, and they feel more ownership.

Great advice, thanks. One stumbling block we're finding is that so many of
our associates aren't present on the WWW. As we find new places to list,
we pursue them.

Neal <neal413 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> says...

As far as higher PR, there are a lot of community orchestras in
Massachusetts, and we're still not among the best known. I figure the
higher the PR, the likelier we'll be higher even if the search isn't
precise to our keywords, and since higher PR is based on quality inbounds,
it certainly makes us more likely to be found.

You might not be the best known community orchestras in Massachusetts,
but that doesn't stop you from having the best Massachusetts community
orchestras website. Put up some high-quality content such as a tech
section about each instrament of a bio of every composer you play
or a tutorial on reading music. Make it isteresting and webmasters
all over the world will link to it.


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