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Roy Schestowitz
 
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Default Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 12:42 AM






I thought some people in this group may find this interesting.

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...volving-se-os/


<snips>

....

The very core of these remains PageRank ? a mechanism that often gets
misused and leads to disasters (referrer spam among other link spamming
techniques). For my recent zombie attacks I blame:

* Google - for unintentionally leading to ?link greed?, not
understanding or anticipating streetsmarts and penetration of second- and
third-world countries into the Internet

....

One may begin to conceive a Google killer rather than a Windows killer. The
required resources, however, in particular data centres, make the
(financial) entry barrier too high to initiate a substantial enough threat.
Proprietaries, however, are no concrete barrier, in contrary to the case
with operating systems.

....

</snips>

Faithfully,

Roy

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Default Re: Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 03:19 AM






Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I thought some people in this group may find this interesting.

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...volving-se-os/
Aargh, you link to a well know troll: Xah Lee.

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Default Re: Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 03:21 AM



__/ [John Bokma] on Saturday 15 October 2005 08:19 \__

Quote:
Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

I thought some people in this group may find this interesting.

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...volving-se-os/

Aargh, you link to a well know troll: Xah Lee.
rel="nofollow"ed it just 30 seconds ago. I read some of the replies in that
crossposted thread.

Is 3 years not enough time to capitalise the "i"'s?

Roy

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Default Re: Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 04:40 AM



Roy Schestowitz wrote:
Quote:
One may begin to conceive a Google killer rather than a Windows killer. The
required resources, however, in particular data centres, make the
(financial) entry barrier too high to initiate a substantial enough threat.
Doesn't have to be that big a barrier.
You could try a totally different approach; 'SEO@HOME', 'P2PSEO' or even
a combination of both.

That would bring a whole new load of problems, but it would take away
the need for a lot of resources.

So... who here knows Python ?


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alain
 
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Default Re: Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 04:41 AM



Roy Schestowitz wrote:
Quote:
One may begin to conceive a Google killer rather than a Windows killer. The
required resources, however, in particular data centres, make the
(financial) entry barrier too high to initiate a substantial enough threat.
Doesn't have to be that big a barrier.
You could try a totally different approach; 'SE@HOME', 'P2P-SE' or even
a combination of both.

That would bring a whole new load of problems, but it would take away
the need for a lot of resources.

So... who here knows Python ?

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Default Re: Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 04:49 AM



__/ [alain] on Saturday 15 October 2005 09:41 \__

Quote:
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
One may begin to conceive a Google killer rather than a Windows killer.
The required resources, however, in particular data centres, make the
(financial) entry barrier too high to initiate a substantial enough
threat.

Doesn't have to be that big a barrier.
You could try a totally different approach; 'SE@HOME', 'P2P-SE' or even
a combination of both.

I'll have a look, thanks.


Quote:
That would bring a whole new load of problems, but it would take away
the need for a lot of resources.

So... who here knows Python ?

Why Python? Because Brin used it? Speaking of which, I heard about Python on
Rails some days ago. I can't recall if it simply hit the Slashdot front
page...

Roy

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Default Re: Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 05:52 AM



Roy Schestowitz wrote:
Quote:
You could try a totally different approach; 'SE@HOME', 'P2P-SE' or even
a combination of both.

I'll have a look, thanks.
Mind you, SE@HOME and P2P-SE are things I made up

Quote:
So... who here knows Python ?

Why Python? Because Brin used it? Speaking of which, I heard about Python on
Rails some days ago. I can't recall if it simply hit the Slashdot front
page...
Python is open source.
That's my only reason.


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Default Re: Bitter About Google Algorithms - 10-15-2005 , 06:40 AM




"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote

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__/ [John Bokma] on Saturday 15 October 2005 08:19 \__

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

I thought some people in this group may find this interesting.

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...volving-se-os/

Aargh, you link to a well know troll: Xah Lee.

rel="nofollow"ed it just 30 seconds ago. I read some of the replies in
that
crossposted thread.

Is 3 years not enough time to capitalise the "i"'s?

Roy


Links: this site is 100% rel="nofollow"-FREE, i.e. links are honoured
by all search engines. ;o)




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Default Re: Rel='nofollow' in Blog Links - 10-15-2005 , 09:45 AM



__/ [T.J.] on Saturday 15 October 2005 11:40 \__

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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:diqaqe$1vbu$3 (AT) godfrey (DOT) mcc.ac.uk...
__/ [John Bokma] on Saturday 15 October 2005 08:19 \__

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups (AT) schestowitz (DOT) com> wrote:

I thought some people in this group may find this interesting.

http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archiv...volving-se-os/

Aargh, you link to a well know troll: Xah Lee.

rel="nofollow"ed it just 30 seconds ago. I read some of the replies in
that
crossposted thread.

Is 3 years not enough time to capitalise the "i"'s?

Roy



Links: this site is 100% rel="nofollow"-FREE, i.e. links are honoured
by all search engines. ;o)
Well, true as far as the commenter and their comments go. I use nofollow to
drain life out of links that serve the aims of /the/ monopoly, as well as
those that lead to duplicate content (e.g. corresponding printer-friendly
and PDF versions).

Regardless, I see more and more sites that begin to realise the moral issues
with nofollow and reverse the out-of-the-box traits of their CMS as to
respect and accredit all links. Also, disdain for backlinks-based engines
is growing, much like the recent wide-spread realisation of proprietary
formats and their damage (c/f Massachusetts versus Office). Subsequently,
you hear more ranks about the current state-of-affair among crawlers,
sponsored search tools, etc. etc.

I am beginning to see more referrals from Scroogle...

Roy

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Default Re: Open Source and Search - 10-15-2005 , 09:52 AM



__/ [alain] on Saturday 15 October 2005 10:52 \__

Quote:
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
You could try a totally different approach; 'SE@HOME', 'P2P-SE' or even
a combination of both.

I'll have a look, thanks.

Mind you, SE@HOME and P2P-SE are things I made up

SETI@home is the first thing that arose in my head. Sounded dubious - Search
Engine at Home and Peer to Peer Search Engine...

Speaking of SETI@home, here is an analogy I made up a few days ago and
tossed in a text file:

Running anti-virus/spyware/malware is much like running SETI@home, thus
seeking extra terrestrial life. It only drains your CPU in vain. If your
operating system is sufficiently flawed and requires add-on protection,
consider alternatives.


Quote:
So... who here knows Python ?

Why Python? Because Brin used it? Speaking of which, I heard about Python
on Rails some days ago. I can't recall if it simply hit the Slashdot
front page...

Python is open source.
That's my only reason.

It does not prevent it from being used for evil purposes. I will say no
more, just keyworks instead: google.com, mozilla.com, wordpress.com(?),
DMOZ(?)...

Roy

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