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Default The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 06-08-2005 , 06:39 AM







Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.

What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?


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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 06-08-2005 , 06:47 AM







<markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet
news:1118227187.326395.258020 (AT) z14g2000cwz (DOT) googlegroups.com...
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Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.

Altavista seems to give more importance to the content than to the date in
which it has been updated.
Google seems to give more importance to a page which is perhaps newer but
with less content...
Quote:
What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?
Perhaps they would like to have new pages all the time because they are
afraid of getting a lower number of visits if they keep the same results on
the top for a long time. But, on the other hand, this makes me find content
rich sites at Altavista!

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https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...le-daosta.html







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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 06-08-2005 , 08:39 AM





isnt a dynamic page continuously new?

Mark

"Luigi Donatello Asero" <jaggillarfotboll (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote

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markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> skrev i meddelandet
news:1118227187.326395.258020 (AT) z14g2000cwz (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.


Altavista seems to give more importance to the content than to the date in
which it has been updated.
Google seems to give more importance to a page which is perhaps newer but
with less content...
What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?

Perhaps they would like to have new pages all the time because they are
afraid of getting a lower number of visits if they keep the same results
on
the top for a long time. But, on the other hand, this makes me find
content
rich sites at Altavista!

--
Luigi ( un italiano che vive in Svezia)

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv...de-i-italien-i
-valle-daosta.html
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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 06-08-2005 , 08:47 AM




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isnt a dynamic page continuously new?
Yes and no. It's dynamically generated everytime, but the content can remain
the same. I've used a random display order function for contents from time
to time which makes it look different which has been reasonably successful..




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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 06-08-2005 , 08:53 AM



On 8 Jun 2005 03:39:47 -0700, markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

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Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.
I don't see this with Google, I find new pages take time to gain
SERPs.

Are you talking about adding content to an existing page and then
pushing that content to another page as new content arrives (a blog)?

If so the reason you see the good SERPs is because the new content is
on the home page where it will be considered very important. Once it's
pushed off the home page all you have then is a relatively new page
with no 'standing' in Google, why should that new page rank as well as
your home page that's been around for ages and presumably to Google
has a 'reputation' (has many more links to it) for providing good
content?

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What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?
If you are using a blog type format as touched on above I don't think
there is. Once you update your home pages content you get new SERPs
and the current home page SERPs slip. Over time the new pages created
will rank well for some SERPs if those pages gain links for that
content.

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Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?
I've not found any benefit from modifying current pages all the time
(assume you mean not changing the content significantly, but minor
changes so the creation date is updated).

If you mean having fresh content on lots of pages of a site then you
have the same situation as the home page of a blog. As time goes on
you'll gain SERPs for all those pages, but as you change the content
the SERPs will also change (so you loose the old SERPs again).

You generally find the home page is the best place to take advantage
of new content (if you want new SERPs fast) so the less links a page
has the less likely you are to see new SERPs.

For example if you have a dozen pages constantly updating if you don't
have lots of links to all those pages (so they are as important as the
home page) it's unlikely all will do well all the time.

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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 06-08-2005 , 03:16 PM



On 8 Jun 2005 03:39:47 -0700, markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.

What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?
Modify them.

BB

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www.kruse.co.uk/ seo (AT) kruse (DOT) demon.co.uk
seo that watches the river flow...
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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 07-02-2005 , 10:00 AM




"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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On 8 Jun 2005 03:39:47 -0700, markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:


Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.

What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?

Modify them.

BB

What if you have a static landing page that is well ranked in Google. Then
you add 5-10 news items with relevant keywords and change the items
regularly. Assume the news items always represent 5% of page content.

Would this help in the ranking of that page?

Bob





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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 07-02-2005 , 11:50 AM



On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 14:00:43 GMT, "ergobob"
<ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote:

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"Big Bill" <kruse (AT) cityscape (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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On 8 Jun 2005 03:39:47 -0700, markbiernat (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:


Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.

What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?

Modify them.

BB


What if you have a static landing page that is well ranked in Google. Then
you add 5-10 news items with relevant keywords and change the items
regularly. Assume the news items always represent 5% of page content.

Would this help in the ranking of that page?

Bob
I can't see why it should. It would likely be spidered more often, but
that in itself wouldn't affect rankings.

BB

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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 07-02-2005 , 12:05 PM



Quote:
Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.

What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?

Modify them.

BB


What if you have a static landing page that is well ranked in Google. Then
you add 5-10 news items with relevant keywords and change the items
regularly. Assume the news items always represent 5% of page content.

Would this help in the ranking of that page?

Bob

I can't see why it should. It would likely be spidered more often, but
that in itself wouldn't affect rankings.


Hi Bill,

This is sort of a continuation of our discussion in another thread. Your
answer is the same.

Here is what I don't understand. Assume you wrote a new relevant paragraph,
consisting of 100 words with lots of keywords every day. And assume that the
100 words represented 5% of the page content. And, each day you replaced the
100 word paragraph with a new topic.

Given that Google might visit the page more frequently because of the new
content. But why wouldn't Google consider this a content change, see the
keywords, and adjust it's ranking consideration accordingly?

I understand that this "replacement" is not as good as cumulatively adding
to the content, but it does add 5% on an ever changing basis vs. a
completely static page.

Thanks Bill,

Bob




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Big Bill
 
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Default Re: The best way to keep a page/site dynamic? Honeymooning with Google. - 07-02-2005 , 02:46 PM



On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 16:05:26 GMT, "ergobob"
<ergobob@sonic[REMOVE].net> wrote:

Quote:
Google loves new fresh content.

When I post a new page I have a honeymoon with Google. It's near the
top. But as the page becomes old and static, it drops.

What is the best way to keep your site/pages dynamic and alive in
Google's eyes?

Guestbook's? New pages? Blogs? Modifying the pages all the time?

Modify them.

BB


What if you have a static landing page that is well ranked in Google. Then
you add 5-10 news items with relevant keywords and change the items
regularly. Assume the news items always represent 5% of page content.

Would this help in the ranking of that page?

Bob

I can't see why it should. It would likely be spidered more often, but
that in itself wouldn't affect rankings.



Hi Bill,

This is sort of a continuation of our discussion in another thread. Your
answer is the same.

Here is what I don't understand. Assume you wrote a new relevant paragraph,
consisting of 100 words with lots of keywords every day. And assume that the
100 words represented 5% of the page content. And, each day you replaced the
100 word paragraph with a new topic.

Given that Google might visit the page more frequently because of the new
content. But why wouldn't Google consider this a content change, see the
keywords, and adjust it's ranking consideration accordingly?

I understand that this "replacement" is not as good as cumulatively adding
to the content, but it does add 5% on an ever changing basis vs. a
completely static page.

Thanks Bill,

Bob
Not from where I sit. Sort the extra content onto new pages, implement
an internal linking strategy, and then your new content will have
value from a ranking point of view.

BB

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