Banned from AdSense (??)

I recently talked a friend into signing up for AdSense -- he already had a
small web site. He filled out the registration form and got an email
saying that due to previous abuse he couldn't sign up. He emailed Google
back saying that he had never used AdSense before. Google replied with an
email,

"Upon receipt of your response, we have thoroughly reviewed your account
and have confirmed that it is related to an account previously disabled
for invalid click activity."

He has never used AdSense and didn't even know what it was until I told
him about it. He could not have been involved in any "invalid click
activity."

Has this happened to anyone else here? I don't know what to tell him
except to email Google again. The only thing I can think of is that he
signed up while using a computer at his job that was once used by their
"SEO person" (a somewhat shady character who was later fired). I wonder
if the static IP on the computer is linked to the other SEO's account and
that is what is blocking him? I don't know if the SEO guy did anything
bad with AdSense but it wouldn't surprise me. I checked his sites and
he uses a lot of affiliate crap but no AdSense, so maybe he was banned.

Any suggestions on how he can clear up his name? Thanks...

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:25:15 +0100, wd <nn@1.invalid> wrote:

except to email Google again. The only thing I can think of is that he
signed up while using a computer at his job that was once used by their
"SEO person" (a somewhat shady character who was later fired). I wonder
if the static IP on the computer is linked to the other SEO's account and
that is what is blocking him? I don't know if the SEO guy did anything
bad with AdSense but it wouldn't surprise me. I checked his sites and
he uses a lot of affiliate crap but no AdSense, so maybe he was banned.

That's very likely, I believe I have read somewhere that Google 'remembers'
more than just e-mail when it comes to customer identification.

Best,
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Yep, sounds about right, and you won't change Google's mind on this
matter. They are a law unto themselves.

I had an account for about 6 months, and having worked hard to get up
to about $2500 monthly, I got banned for guess what? So called
"Invalid Clicks" which was utter rubbish. Like you I contacted Google
and got vitually the same reply as you.

As if that wasn't bad enough, several motrhs later my wife opened an
Adsense Account, only toi have it closed for "guess what" - "Illegal;
Clicks" less than 10 days after the account was opened, and again, no
illegal clicks had taken place. She queried this and received thwe bulk
standard reply.

We've since learned via the net that 61,000 have had their accounts
terminated for "Illegal Clicks". A good way for Google to keep ALL the
money I suspect.

You friend will NOT get an Accouny again I'm afraid.

On 29 Nov 2005 06:40:44 -0800, "just4u"
<spectrum-international (AT) usa (DOT) net> wrote:

Yep, sounds about right, and you won't change Google's mind on this
matter. They are a law unto themselves.

I had an account for about 6 months, and having worked hard to get up
to about $2500 monthly, I got banned for guess what? So called
"Invalid Clicks" which was utter rubbish. Like you I contacted Google
and got vitually the same reply as you.

As if that wasn't bad enough, several motrhs later my wife opened an
Adsense Account, only toi have it closed for "guess what" - "Illegal;
Clicks" less than 10 days after the account was opened, and again, no
illegal clicks had taken place. She queried this and received thwe bulk
standard reply.

We've since learned via the net that 61,000 have had their accounts
terminated for "Illegal Clicks". A good way for Google to keep ALL the
money I suspect.

You friend will NOT get an Accouny again I'm afraid.

Get a new site through someone anyonymous, like I hear Godaddy do.

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"just4u" <spectrum-international (AT) usa (DOT) net> writes:

We've since learned via the net that 61,000 have had their accounts
terminated for "Illegal Clicks". A good way for Google to keep ALL the
money I suspect.

That sounds like a *great* plenty of people for a class-action
lawsuit. I'm sure something like that will happen eventually.
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:40:44 -0800, just4u wrote:

Yep, sounds about right, and you won't change Google's mind on this
matter. They are a law unto themselves.

I had an account for about 6 months, and having worked hard to get up
to about $2500 monthly, I got banned for guess what? So called
"Invalid Clicks" which was utter rubbish. Like you I contacted Google
and got vitually the same reply as you.

Actually, I haven't contacted Google about it. The other guy just showed
me the emails that he recieved from Google.

As if that wasn't bad enough, several motrhs later my wife opened an
Adsense Account, only toi have it closed for "guess what" - "Illegal;
Clicks" less than 10 days after the account was opened, and again, no
illegal clicks had taken place. She queried this and received thwe bulk
standard reply.

We've since learned via the net that 61,000 have had their accounts
terminated for "Illegal Clicks". A good way for Google to keep ALL the
money I suspect.

You friend will NOT get an Accouny again I'm afraid.

He never had an account at all. This was his first time signing up --
he had never even heard of AdSense until I told him about it a couple of
weeks ago. He never even had a chance to put an ad online.

This can't be right -- "related to an account previously disabled
for invalid click activity." Google is accusing an innocent
person of fraud. Google needs to have a way for people to clear up their
names and reputations. The social security number (as a tax ID number)
should be able to clear up any confusion about identity, no?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:05:12 +0100, Borek wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:25:15 +0100, wd <nn@1.invalid> wrote:

except to email Google again. The only thing I can think of is that he
signed up while using a computer at his job that was once used by their
"SEO person" (a somewhat shady character who was later fired). I wonder
if the static IP on the computer is linked to the other SEO's account and
that is what is blocking him? I don't know if the SEO guy did anything
bad with AdSense but it wouldn't surprise me. I checked his sites and
he uses a lot of affiliate crap but no AdSense, so maybe he was banned.

That's very likely, I believe I have read somewhere that Google 'remembers'
more than just e-mail when it comes to customer identification.

The traffic is coming from an Internet cafe. So it would not be right to
ban AdSense applicants solely based on IP address. That is the part that
doesn't make sense. If it wasn't the former SEO person (who is the most
likely suspect because he doesn't use AdSense) then it could have been
anyone using the Internet cafe computers.

Best,
Borek

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:11:09 +0100, wd <nn@1.invalid> wrote:

except to email Google again. The only thing I can think of is that he
signed up while using a computer at his job that was once used by their
"SEO person" (a somewhat shady character who was later fired). I
wonder
if the static IP on the computer is linked to the other SEO's account
and
that is what is blocking him? I don't know if the SEO guy did anything
bad with AdSense but it wouldn't surprise me. I checked his sites and
he uses a lot of affiliate crap but no AdSense, so maybe he was banned.

That's very likely, I believe I have read somewhere that Google
'remembers'
more than just e-mail when it comes to customer identification.

The traffic is coming from an Internet cafe. So it would not be right to
ban AdSense applicants solely based on IP address. That is the part that
doesn't make sense. If it wasn't the former SEO person (who is the most
likely suspect because he doesn't use AdSense) then it could have been
anyone using the Internet cafe computers.

Try to jump intoo Google boots - they have to filter out black sheeps.
They probably hold position that they owe more to the paying customers
(ie they should protect them from fraud) than to the AdSense affiliates
(possible source of fraud). They use data thay have - and they are able
to connect fraudster account with IP, but not with a social security
number. That's how it is implemented probably, and to say the truth I
don't see other way to do it. And I am sure they are aware of the fact
that some of the honest people are getting rejected - but it is cheaper
for them then refunds and possible suits from paying customers.

Best,
Borek
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:32:23 +0100, Borek wrote:

Try to jump intoo Google boots - they have to filter out black sheeps.
They probably hold position that they owe more to the paying customers
(ie they should protect them from fraud) than to the AdSense affiliates
(possible source of fraud). They use data thay have - and they are able
to connect fraudster account with IP, but not with a social security
number. That's how it is implemented probably, and to say the truth I
don't see other way to do it. And I am sure they are aware of the fact
that some of the honest people are getting rejected - but it is cheaper
for them then refunds and possible suits from paying customers.

They could use Social Security numbers (when available) to distinguish
between spammers and legitimate advertisers. More legitimate advertisers
would mean more money for Google...

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:04:50 +0100, wd <nn@1.invalid> wrote:

(possible source of fraud). They use data thay have - and they are able
to connect fraudster account with IP, but not with a social security
number. That's how it is implemented probably, and to say the truth I

They could use Social Security numbers (when available) to distinguish
between spammers and legitimate advertisers. More legitimate advertisers
would mean more money for Google...

Have it ever occured to you that only 5% of world population have
social security number?

Best,
Borek
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