Allintext Algo @ Google

I would say the present google algo is one where allintext is given much
more weight then anything else. If you do an allintext search using any
search term(s) you'll see the sites that are coming up the highest in
the present algo. But one thing puzzles me with allintext, that is what
exactly does google mean by allintext other then the obvious which is
keywords listed on the page? I can see sites with less keywords being
used on their page being listed higher then ones using more and this is
at an allintext search mind you, not a regular general search. So what
else is there to allintext in google's way of thinking? I know if your
site comes up high in anallintext search it will also come up high in
the present algo.

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:38:21 GMT, Jo <joann32 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I would say the present google algo is one where allintext is given much
more weight then anything else. If you do an allintext search using any
search term(s) you'll see the sites that are coming up the highest in
the present algo. But one thing puzzles me with allintext, that is what
exactly does google mean by allintext other then the obvious which is
keywords listed on the page? I can see sites with less keywords being
used on their page being listed higher then ones using more and this is
at an allintext search mind you, not a regular general search. So what
else is there to allintext in google's way of thinking? I know if your
site comes up high in anallintext search it will also come up high in
the present algo.

You not getting muddled with anchor text?

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__/ [Jo] on Saturday 29 October 2005 06:33 \__

Page Rank is just one factor of many that google takes into
consideration when deciding how high to list your site. Generally during
whatever algo they're running one of the many factors takes presidence
over the others but it's still a combonation of them all that gives
higher listing. The perfect site does well in all these many factors and
never drops very low during algo changes.

Some of these factors are based on:

1. allintext (the algo now)
2. allinurl
3. allintitle
4. allinanchor

Interesting contention. Have you got references/links to support it? I
have never heard it before and judging by the compactness of the terms, it
sounds as if someone coined these already.

The major question to figure out and answer (maybe reverse-engineering the
algorithms) remains: what weight is assigned to each of (1)-(4). There are
even more factors to consider. Don't forget that results pages are
hand-tweaked, for instance, while some sites are banned (and some would
argue sandboxed too).


__/ [Big Bill] on Saturday 29 October 2005 11:35 \__

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 05:38:21 GMT, Jo <joann32 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I would say the present google algo is one where allintext is given much
more weight then anything else. If you do an allintext search using any
search term(s) you'll see the sites that are coming up the highest in
the present algo. But one thing puzzles me with allintext, that is what
exactly does google mean by allintext other then the obvious which is
keywords listed on the page? I can see sites with less keywords being
used on their page being listed higher then ones using more and this is
at an allintext search mind you, not a regular general search. So what
else is there to allintext in google's way of thinking? I know if your
site comes up high in anallintext search it will also come up high in
the present algo.

Don't forget that the order of the terms (usually words) matters a great
deal too. It's about flow and proximity between words as much as it is
about their existence. Today I read an interesting little item:

http://www.alexking.org/blog/2005/10/27/page-titles/

Have a look, for example, at:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Template_Tags/wp_list_pages

In WordPress, Matt insisted on having the site title at the end, with an
arrow pointing left to the page title. This applies to hundreds of thou-
sands of pages.

You not getting muddled with anchor text?

BB

That was actually mentioned in the post above (imported from a different
thread).

Roy

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