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Default Re: AdWords tracking - 11-17-2005 , 03:06 AM






On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 01:17:46 +0100, Nico Schuyt <nschuyt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
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Quote:
To avoid the problem you should not display identical content
for different URLs. Some argue that it is inevitable in some
situations and G is not very rigorous. But even if - better
safe then sorry.

That worries me: I sometimes use an argument like "?menu=xxx" to show or
hide a sub-menu by applying CSS (e.g. display:none) to the page. Do you
think that's a risc?
No idea, but just in case I will prefer to be on the safe side.

Perhaps others will comment?

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Nico Schuyt
 
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Default Re: AdWords tracking - 11-17-2005 , 03:20 AM






Borek wrote:
Quote:
Nico Schuyt wrote:

To avoid the problem you should not display identical content
for different URLs. Some argue that it is inevitable in some
situations and G is not very rigorous. But even if - better
safe then sorry.

That worries me: I sometimes use an argument like "?menu=xxx" to
show or hide a sub-menu by applying CSS (e.g. display:none) to the
page. Do you think that's a risc?

No idea, but just in case I will prefer to be on the safe side.
In case of doubt I could the script make a minor change on the page like
changing the title or a date. I can hardly imagine Google finds out it's
basically the same page :-)

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John Bokma
 
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Default Re: AdWords tracking - 11-17-2005 , 08:07 AM



"Nico Schuyt" <nschuyt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Borek wrote:
Nico Schuyt wrote:

To avoid the problem you should not display identical content
for different URLs. Some argue that it is inevitable in some
situations and G is not very rigorous. But even if - better
safe then sorry.

That worries me: I sometimes use an argument like "?menu=xxx" to
show or hide a sub-menu by applying CSS (e.g. display:none) to the
page. Do you think that's a risc?

No idea, but just in case I will prefer to be on the safe side.

In case of doubt I could the script make a minor change on the page like
changing the title or a date. I can hardly imagine Google finds out it's
basically the same page :-)

If it's the same page, you probably want only one instance in Google.

2 options:

1 nofollow:

Use
<a href="http://www.example.com/foo.php?menu=xxx" rel="nofollow">Expand
menu</a>.

see: <http://www.google.com/webmasters/bot.html>, 14

2 META

Have the script add

<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW">

when it's menu=xxx



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Nico Schuyt
 
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Default Re: AdWords tracking - 11-17-2005 , 08:46 AM



John Bokma wrote:
Quote:
"Nico Schuyt" <nschuyt (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Borek wrote:
Nico Schuyt wrote:

To avoid the problem you should not display identical content
for different URLs. Some argue that it is inevitable in some
situations and G is not very rigorous. But even if - better
safe then sorry.

That worries me: I sometimes use an argument like "?menu=xxx" to
show or hide a sub-menu by applying CSS (e.g. display:none) to the
page. Do you think that's a risc?

No idea, but just in case I will prefer to be on the safe side.

In case of doubt I could the script make a minor change on the page
like changing the title or a date. I can hardly imagine Google finds
out it's basically the same page :-)

If it's the same page, you probably want only one instance in Google.
2 options:
1 nofollow:
Use
a href="http://www.example.com/foo.php?menu=xxx"
rel="nofollow">Expand menu</a>.
see: <http://www.google.com/webmasters/bot.html>, 14
2 META
Have the script add
META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW"
when it's menu=xxx
I think I found a 3rd one :-) :
The items that can be clicked to expand the menu are in fact no real menu
items. So I solved it with an
onClick="toggleLi('xxxxx');
Function toggleLi() triggers the menu to expand.
Advantages:
Faster
No jumping around if a menu-item is clicked
Only relevant links on the site
Disadvantage of course is that in a non js situation all menu items are
visible.
Another (minor) problem is that the behavior of a link item with an expand
function differs from the "real" links.

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http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/





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