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Harlan Messinger
 
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Default AdSense sensing, Google ignoring? - 02-15-2006 , 12:29 PM






For several days I've had content-relevant Google AdSense ads displaying
on my web pages. But Google returns nothing for searches that match one
or another of my pages. I understand that when you submit a URL for
indexing there's no telling how long it will take before they get to it,
but the fact that the AdSense is working means that they've done it
already, so why are the ignoring it for searches?

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Roy Schestowitz
 
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Default Re: AdSense sensing, Google ignoring? - 02-15-2006 , 12:42 PM






__/ [Harlan Messinger] on Wednesday 15 February 2006 17:29 \__

Quote:
For several days I've had content-relevant Google AdSense ads displaying
on my web pages. But Google returns nothing for searches that match one
or another of my pages. I understand that when you submit a URL for
indexing there's no telling how long it will take before they get to it,
but the fact that the AdSense is working means that they've done it
already, so why are the ignoring it for searches?
Being a part of the Google advertising programme does not warrant indexing
and good ranking for your pages (arguable though). Pages are scanned for
patterns in order for ads to be determined 'off-line' and delivered upon
demand. However, would Google just store information which is a pairing
between page (URL) and ads, or would it also cache the page and its en-
tirety and add it to the search results index? The latter could lead to
search engine poisoning because AdSense is often susceptible to use by
spammers (yet Google review sites before acceptance).

Either way, as my answer is so poorly-constructed, the point to make is
that having contextual ads is /one/ thing. Scoring high in Google or even
getting pages to show up is an entirely different matter. The lust for be-
ing crawled could lead to misuse of AdSense, but in turn generate revenue
for Google. It verges the fraudulent and questionable business practices;
maybe even exploitation of one's position as an SE monopoly, driven almost
by monoculture. I will omit any conspiracy theories or claims that Google
prefer to refer surfers to sites where Google holds estate.


Good luck,

Roy

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Borek
 
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Default Re: AdSense sensing, Google ignoring? - 02-15-2006 , 12:52 PM



On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 18:29:59 +0100, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removethis (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
For several days I've had content-relevant Google AdSense ads displaying
on my web pages. But Google returns nothing for searches that match one
or another of my pages. I understand that when you submit a URL for
indexing there's no telling how long it will take before they get to it,
but the fact that the AdSense is working means that they've done it
already, so why are the ignoring it for searches?
These are two different things. If you have access to your server logs -
check them. Whenever someone visits your page, it is fetched by bot
Mediapartners-Google/2.1, which checks the content and selects ads to
display. Pages fetched by Mediapartners-Google/2.1 bot are not added to
main Google index. Regular crawler is Googlebot/2.1.

Looks to me that once the pages are in the main index, Mediapartners bot
is less active - but it still fetches pages. But I can be wrong, as I
haven't checked it thoroughly.

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Harlan Messinger
 
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Default Re: AdSense sensing, Google ignoring? - 02-15-2006 , 01:28 PM



Roy Schestowitz wrote:
Quote:
__/ [Harlan Messinger] on Wednesday 15 February 2006 17:29 \__


For several days I've had content-relevant Google AdSense ads displaying
on my web pages. But Google returns nothing for searches that match one
or another of my pages. I understand that when you submit a URL for
indexing there's no telling how long it will take before they get to it,
but the fact that the AdSense is working means that they've done it
already, so why are the ignoring it for searches?


Being a part of the Google advertising programme does not warrant indexing
and good ranking for your pages (arguable though). Pages are scanned for
patterns in order for ads to be determined 'off-line' and delivered upon
demand. However, would Google just store information which is a pairing
between page (URL) and ads, or would it also cache the page and its en-
tirety and add it to the search results index? The latter could lead to
search engine poisoning because AdSense is often susceptible to use by
spammers (yet Google review sites before acceptance).

Either way, as my answer is so poorly-constructed,
Not at all, I followed you this far. :-) Thanks.

Quote:
the point to make is
that having contextual ads is /one/ thing. Scoring high in Google or even
getting pages to show up is an entirely different matter.
I wasn't expecting any particular ranking, just inclusion.


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Andrew Heenan
 
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Default Re: AdSense sensing, Google ignoring? - 02-15-2006 , 01:51 PM



"Roy Schestowitz" wrote...
(yet Google review sites before acceptance).

Not quite - Adsense reviews the site you apply with; thereafter, you can put
it where you will withouty review (unless problems arise).

Otherwise, I agree - adsesne placement is entirely separate form Google.
Neither guarantees anything about the other.
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