Adding a search to a site

I highly recommend atomz.com.

? Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
tiered pricing structure.

I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.

I've taken a look at atomz.com and there is no longer any mention of
fees - you have to contact them to get prices. Sorry to contradict -
this is just my experience.

HTH

Jo

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:02:35 -0700, Jo wrote:

I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.

With that many pages you should have a database backend anyway, so it's
easy enough to write your own search engine.

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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 19:08:23 +0100, Toby A Inkster
<UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote:

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:02:35 -0700, Jo wrote:

I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.

With that many pages you should have a database backend anyway, so it's
easy enough to write your own search engine.
My site is c.300 pages and growing.

My intranet is c. 100 pages.
Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
everyday.

joanne.hall (AT) btinternet (DOT) com (Jo) wrote in message news:<14f95d88.0307080602.303555c8 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>...

I highly recommend atomz.com.

? Their site-specific search engine is free if you have 500
pages or less, and moderately priced for more pages, on a
tiered pricing structure.


I'm not sure that this is correct any more. I have just had a
conversation with Atomz about my site search. We have just gone over
the 500 page mark and they are quoting us a fee of $15000 a year to
upgrade - even though we are unlikely to go beyond 1000 pages in the
next couple of years.

I've taken a look at atomz.com and there is no longer any mention of
fees - you have to contact them to get prices. Sorry to contradict -
this is just my experience.

HTH

Jo

That's precisely why I recommend FusionBot!

For just over 500 pages, your yearly fee will range between $240.00 to
$720.00, and I find their search features to surpass those of Atomz
anyway.

Hard to understand why anyone would choose the Atomz solution...

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 07:20:18 +0100, Titus A Ducksass wrote:

My site is c.300 pages and growing.
My intranet is c. 100 pages.
Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
everyday.

For static content, look into htdig.

If your site is database-backed, you will get better results writing your
own custom search engine. I wrote one for my site. It took about an hour
and a half. The source code is available for my entire site (go to my site
and search for 'demiblog') and this should give you an idea of how to do
it.

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On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:59:52 +0100, Toby A Inkster
<UseTheAddressInMySig (AT) deadspam (DOT) com> wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 07:20:18 +0100, Titus A Ducksass wrote:

My site is c.300 pages and growing.
My intranet is c. 100 pages.
Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
everyday.

For static content, look into htdig.

If your site is database-backed, you will get better results writing your
own custom search engine. I wrote one for my site. It took about an hour
and a half. The source code is available for my entire site (go to my site
and search for 'demiblog') and this should give you an idea of how to do
it.
Thank you.

I love people that respond with curtious and helpfull replies.
Once again Thank you.

On 9 Jul 2003 07:42:45 -0700, cubscubs (AT) hotmail (DOT) com (TheGuru) wrote:

<Snip>

That's precisely why I recommend FusionBot!

For just over 500 pages, your yearly fee will range between $240.00 to
$720.00, and I find their search features to surpass those of Atomz
anyway.

Hard to understand why anyone would choose the Atomz solution...
Because it is FREE!!!

(For less than 500 pages anyway.)

On 10 Jul 2003 07:16:36 -0700, cubscubs (AT) hotmail (DOT) com (TheGuru) wrote:

Titus A Ducksass <me (AT) neverumind (DOT) com> wrote

On 9 Jul 2003 07:42:45 -0700, cubscubs (AT) hotmail (DOT) com (TheGuru) wrote:

Snip

That's precisely why I recommend FusionBot!

For just over 500 pages, your yearly fee will range between $240.00 to
$720.00, and I find their search features to surpass those of Atomz
anyway.

Hard to understand why anyone would choose the Atomz solution...
Because it is FREE!!!
(For less than 500 pages anyway.)

So is FusionBot! We weren't talking about FREE package levels, as the
requirements are much larger than any free solutions, for the most
part.

It's a given that all the reputable providers offer a free solution.
I bow to your knowledge and experience.

It doesnt allow as many pages as Atomz though it does offer an extra
function of a site map.

Where do I start to look about indexing our site and providing its own
search engine - just started using php to try to get the site under
control. - I took it over just over a year ago and am fighting it
everyday.
As I may be in the same sort'v position shortly, can I pick your brains? - what did you

find yourself doing mainly, and/or in what order? (VERY broad question, and I appreciate
that every situation is different, but anything you can suggest would be welcome.)
TIA.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:52:49 +0100, Titus A Ducksass wrote:

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resource 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd'. Line 85,
Position 2

%xhtml-prefw-redecl.mod;
-^

Thanks to the numerous people who have pointed this out. Seems to be a
bizarre bug in IE's XML parsing engine, but I *think* I have found a
workaround. Could somebody with IE please compare:

http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/

with:

http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/article-old.php

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