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Rene Pijlman
 
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Default Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-15-2003 , 07:56 AM






Is there an acceptable way to link to unimportant pages on a site (about,
copyright, disclaimer and such), without directing pagerank to these
pages?

In other words, is there any way to link to pages for visitors without
linking for search engines, which is not considered abuse by the SE's?

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Default Re: Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-15-2003 , 10:02 AM






You're joking aren't you? I can show you some adult websites that have
at least 1000 pages per site and google credits all 1000 of their
internal pages as if they were external links they exchanged with
another site of equal pr. Try this site for example listed at google and
it has a pr6 on its index page because of the 1000 internal links. The
1000 links don't have any pr but it's funneled back to the index page.
If you don't believe this check this sites back links:
http://www.pussy.org
The important number if the index page of pr6 which they attain by
hiring people to create thousands of meaningless internal pages for the
site. They also own about 100 more domain name each having 1000's of
pages doing the same thing and all their sites are corssed linked to
each other. Then I see people here worrying about the google ban, yeah
right some ban that is! Google has become the new dmoz and it's time for
them to go! I suggest you all email yahoo, and aol and tell them to dump
the google account and also do the same for google's largest sponsers as
well!

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Rene Pijlman
 
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Default Re: Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-15-2003 , 10:38 AM



Sam:
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Rene Pijlman:
Is there an acceptable way to link to unimportant pages on a site (about,
copyright, disclaimer and such), without directing pagerank to these
pages?

You're joking aren't you?
No, I'm not.

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Paolo Nascimbeni
 
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Default Re: Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-15-2003 , 10:40 AM





According to fhe google algorithm the transferrable PR is: Page PR Times
dumping factor divided the number of ougoing link ... more or less...
As a result I was really worried a while ago about giving links pointing
outside my domains. Now I am having several links pointing out of the
doamins and they do not seem to change the PR a great deal. Much more
important are the inbound link - that is what I noticed - Anybody else
noticed the same ??
Paolo

PS Sam: I still find easily what I want on Google !!!

www.lifeinitaly.com
www.italyusa.com

ect etc

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Is there an acceptable way to link to unimportant pages on a site (about,
copyright, disclaimer and such), without directing pagerank to these
pages?

In other words, is there any way to link to pages for visitors without
linking for search engines, which is not considered abuse by the SE's?

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Default Re:Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-15-2003 , 10:56 AM



You could link to them with javascript links if you really want to, eg
href="javascript:location.href='about.html'"
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Adrienne
 
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Default Re:Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-15-2003 , 12:59 PM



Gazing into my crystal ball I observed will (AT) webmaster-toolkit-dot-com (DOT) no-
spam.invalid (Webmaster-Toolkit.com) writing in news:3f65d327@shknews01:

Quote:
You could link to them with javascript links if you really want to, eg
href="javascript:location.href='about.html'"
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href="javascript" is invalid. You could use <a href="about.html"
onclick="location.href='about.html'; return false"> . I understand that
the OP wants to keeps SEs from indexing the page, but I would be more
concerned with non-js visitors not being able to use the links.

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Default Re: Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-15-2003 , 02:13 PM



In my view it is not work worrying about.

e.g. Fully meshed 6 page site, home page PR=0.63
then with 7th page (e.g. disclaimer) linked from all pages and back to home,
new home page PR=0.69 (small increase)

e.g. Star site 1+5 pages. home page PR=1.34
then with 7th page (e.g. disclaimer) linked from all pages and back to home,
new home page PR=1.31 (small decrease)

Note: I don't claim these PR values correspond to anyone elses ideas.

Eric.

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Is there an acceptable way to link to unimportant pages on a site (about,
copyright, disclaimer and such), without directing pagerank to these
pages?

In other words, is there any way to link to pages for visitors without
linking for search engines, which is not considered abuse by the SE's?

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William Tasso
 
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Default Re: Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-16-2003 , 04:43 AM



Rene Pijlman wrote:
Quote:
Is there an acceptable way to link to unimportant pages on a site
(about, copyright, disclaimer and such), without directing pagerank
to these pages?
meta nofollow, but ...

Quote:
In other words, is there any way to link to pages for visitors without
linking for search engines, which is not considered abuse by the SE's?
why not turn it round and use those pages as mini site-maps to link back to
all the important pages on your site.

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James
 
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Default Re: Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-16-2003 , 05:07 AM



William Tasso wrote:
Quote:
Rene Pijlman wrote:
Is there an acceptable way to link to unimportant pages on a site
(about, copyright, disclaimer and such), without directing pagerank
to these pages?

meta nofollow, but ...
Is it widely accepted that a meta nofollow tag (or indeed a robots.txt
entry) can prevent a page from acquiring PageRank?

http://www.aclin.org/ has PR6, but its robots.txt prevents Google's bots
from visiting it. This doesn't stop them listing it #1 in a search for
"Colorado Virtual Library" (note the lack of a snippet in the SERP)

http://www.google.com/search?q=Colorado+virtual+library


James




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Default Re:Acceptable way to not leak PR to unimportant pages? - 09-16-2003 , 05:27 AM



Quote:
javascriptWrote:
href="javascript" is invalid.
Really? Works for me...
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