0 page rank?

ive lanched www.van-conversion.co.uk its got lots of inbound links (more
coming every day) but the site has a PR of 0?

anyone see why?

mark

mark | r wrote:

ive lanched www.van-conversion.co.uk its got lots of inbound links (more
coming every day) but the site has a PR of 0?

anyone see why?

mark

To put your mind at ease your site is way too new to have any pr as it
will take weeks maybe even a month or two before any shows. Your links
aren't even showing yet other than in contain the term (site links
meaning plain text mention of your url). Give it time, America wasn't
built in a day you know. In the meantime keep pumping away at adding new
backlinks and use anchor text.

mark | r wrote:

ive lanched www.van-conversion.co.uk its got lots of inbound links
(more coming every day) but the site has a PR of 0?

anyone see why?

mark

I tried to find inbound links. I tried "www.van-conversion.co.uk" into
Google and it came up with 6 other site pages using this string. I looked
at each and 5 appeared to have deliberate linking arrangements to avoid
transferring any value. The 6th one, emfind, had a link and then 5 minutes
later I looked again and it had disappeared. All the links on the emfind
page seemed to work for me but the link format was slightly odd, using
href='url' instead of href="url". I don't know why they did this; it may be
just a mistake and my browser (IE6) tolerates it, it may be an allowed
variation within the html definition or it may be some dodgy trick. Anyway
the page was only PR2 and there were at least 60 other links so it was not
worth much anyway.

Don't get yourself drawn into any reciprocal arrangements which involve you
linking to anything that has PR=0 or looks even vaguely like a link farm -
you yourself could be PR zeroed. Paid for links can equally get you into
trouble. Best is a few quality links, on merit, from your trade
association, local chamber of commerce, customers, suppliers etc. If you do
a good job for a company, maybe they might put a link on their web site
pointed at your web site. Every time, try to get proper incoming links that
say things like "Van and vehicle conversions in Doncaster, Yorkshire" i.e
using words which match what your potential customers might type in.

Best regards, Eric.

mark | r wrote:

ive lanched www.van-conversion.co.uk its got lots of inbound links
(more coming every day) but the site has a PR of 0?

anyone see why?

mark

I've just run a copy of the page in isolation and discovered a white "Home
/" on white background on the left side about 2 inches down from the top
edge. I suggest you delete or change the colour.

Best regards, Eric.

ive lanched www.van-conversion.co.uk its got lots of inbound links (more
coming every day) but the site has a PR of 0?

To put your mind at ease your site is way too new to have any pr as it
will take weeks maybe even a month or two before any shows. Your links
aren't even showing yet other than in contain the term (site links
meaning plain text mention of your url). Give it time, America wasn't
built in a day you know. In the meantime keep pumping away at adding new
backlinks and use anchor text.

Thanks sam... its wierd some of my other sites get listed really quickly and
this one is getting hits from ASK within 3 days of it going live.

Mark

without the CSS? its the first nav option... ok i'll remove it.

mark

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:26:32 GMT, "Eric Johnston"
<eric.johnston (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

snip

Don't get yourself drawn into any reciprocal arrangements which involve you
linking to anything that has PR=0 or looks even vaguely like a link farm -
you yourself could be PR zeroed.

snip

What is a link farm? I mean the official Google definition? The
reason I ask is there are lots of directory sites I have registered
with. They have almost only links as their content. These by the way
showed up within the first 50 results for searches like "auto" or
"parenting". In other words when I search on google using keywords
that hopefully will describe my site and I look for sites that come up
under these keys words so I can exchanged links, I get almost all
directories as results from my searches.

My site just released in May got up to PR1 and now has disappeared
from google's listings. I have written to them about why this would
happen. No response yet.

I did not do anything unusual or underhanded, other than registering
with these "directories". Are they considered link farms?

I also have links from other sites as well, some with pr 6.

I ask about the definition of link farm because I always get these
directories when searching on Google. In fact as an aside I have gone
back to using Yahoo and I occasionally use MSN searches because when I
search on google for general topics, ie not specific products or
items, I almost always get directories pointing to other sites. Then
as I go to the other sites they also are directories. It is
frustrating as a searcher, not webmaster, to be looking for something
only to have Google point to a site that is a list of sites that point
to other lists.

Google had better watch out because other people I know are switching
from Google for the same reason.

Thanks for any tips or advice.



Best regards,

Al
http://www.discountdrivingschool.com
http://autowarranty.compserver.com

"Al F" <bscinc3000 (AT) Yahoo_NoSpam (DOT) com> wrote

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:26:32 GMT, "Eric Johnston"
eric.johnston (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

snip

Don't get yourself drawn into any reciprocal arrangements which involve
you
linking to anything that has PR=0 or looks even vaguely like a link
farm -
you yourself could be PR zeroed.

snip

What is a link farm? I mean the official Google definition? The
reason I ask is there are lots of directory sites I have registered
with. They have almost only links as their content. These by the way
showed up within the first 50 results for searches like "auto" or
"parenting". In other words when I search on google using keywords
that hopefully will describe my site and I look for sites that come up
under these keys words so I can exchanged links, I get almost all
directories as results from my searches.

My site just released in May got up to PR1 and now has disappeared
from google's listings. I have written to them about why this would
happen. No response yet.

I did not do anything unusual or underhanded, other than registering
with these "directories". Are they considered link farms?

I also have links from other sites as well, some with pr 6.

I ask about the definition of link farm because I always get these
directories when searching on Google. In fact as an aside I have gone
back to using Yahoo and I occasionally use MSN searches because when I
search on google for general topics, ie not specific products or
items, I almost always get directories pointing to other sites. Then
as I go to the other sites they also are directories. It is
frustrating as a searcher, not webmaster, to be looking for something
only to have Google point to a site that is a list of sites that point
to other lists.

Google had better watch out because other people I know are switching
from Google for the same reason.

Thanks for any tips or advice.



Best regards,

Al
http://www.discountdrivingschool.com
http://autowarranty.compserver.com

Because you rsite is so new, you may be "sandboxed" at the moment. Google
seems to have a propensity for taking a pretty new site and giving it
ranking and PR for a month or so and then dropping it out for a couple of
months B4 letting it back in.

--
James
http://www.AICompany.com - SEO, Web Development and Hosting
http://www.SEO-highrankings.com -FREE SEO TOOLS

Al F wrote:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:26:32 GMT, "Eric Johnston"
eric.johnston (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

snip

Don't get yourself drawn into any reciprocal arrangements which
involve you linking to anything that has PR=0 or looks even vaguely
like a link farm - you yourself could be PR zeroed.

snip

What is a link farm? I mean the official Google definition? The
reason I ask is there are lots of directory sites I have registered
with. They have almost only links as their content. These by the way
showed up within the first 50 results for searches like "auto" or
"parenting". In other words when I search on google using keywords
that hopefully will describe my site and I look for sites that come up
under these keys words so I can exchanged links, I get almost all
directories as results from my searches.

My site just released in May got up to PR1 and now has disappeared
from google's listings. I have written to them about why this would
happen. No response yet.

I did not do anything unusual or underhanded, other than registering
with these "directories". Are they considered link farms?

I also have links from other sites as well, some with pr 6.

I ask about the definition of link farm because I always get these
directories when searching on Google. In fact as an aside I have gone
back to using Yahoo and I occasionally use MSN searches because when I
search on google for general topics, ie not specific products or
items, I almost always get directories pointing to other sites. Then
as I go to the other sites they also are directories. It is
frustrating as a searcher, not webmaster, to be looking for something
only to have Google point to a site that is a list of sites that point
to other lists.

Google had better watch out because other people I know are switching
from Google for the same reason.

Thanks for any tips or advice.



Best regards,

Al
http://www.discountdrivingschool.com
http://autowarranty.compserver.com

I don't really know what is defined as a link farm either. To me it is a
site or part of a site packed with links and little substantive content
which appears to be there only for the purpose of artificially influencing
the search engines.

I would not worry about having your site included in such lists, unless you
paid to be included. It is not your fault if your site gets listed, even
in dodgy areas.

What you should worry about is putting links from your site to such sites.
Don't put links to anything that looks like it is in the business of
artificially influencing the search engines. Since you can't tell for sure
which sites have been banned for some reason, I would avoid putting a link
to any site with PR=0, unless that site is a new one. One sign of a dodgy
list is when you get automated emails demanding a reciprocal link otherwise
they will remove yours. This is evidence that they are in my concept of the
link farming business. If you have outgoing links from your site check the
destination sites regularly and delete links immediately if the destination
site gets PR zeroed or its content becomes unsuitable for your visitors to
go to.

Best regards, Eric.