xhtml 1.1 and Flash embed

So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code. In fact, Dreamweaver's built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way to fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

sorry if this is an old question -- searched the forums and knowledge base
without success.

So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code. In fact, Dreamweaver's
built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way to
fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Do you NEED XHTML? Most of the time, the answer to that is 'no'.

-Darrel

So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code. In fact, Dreamweaver's
built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way to
fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Do you NEED XHTML? Most of the time, the answer to that is 'no'.

-Darrel

xhtml 1.1... If your content is not xml I strongly read this
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx

darrel skrev:

So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code. In fact, Dreamweaver's
built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way to
fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Do you NEED XHTML? Most of the time, the answer to that is 'no'.

-Darrel

--
Kim
---------------------------
http://www.geekministry.com

xhtml 1.1... If your content is not xml I strongly read this
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx

darrel skrev:

So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code. In fact, Dreamweaver's
built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way to
fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Do you NEED XHTML? Most of the time, the answer to that is 'no'.

-Darrel

--
Kim
---------------------------
http://www.geekministry.com

should read ...I strongly advice you to read this...

kim skrev:

xhtml 1.1... If your content is not xml I strongly read this
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx

darrel skrev:
So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code. In fact,
Dreamweaver's built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way
to fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Do you NEED XHTML? Most of the time, the answer to that is 'no'.

-Darrel

--
Kim
---------------------------
http://www.geekministry.com

should read ...I strongly advice you to read this...

kim skrev:

xhtml 1.1... If your content is not xml I strongly read this
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx

darrel skrev:
So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code. In fact,
Dreamweaver's built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way
to fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Do you NEED XHTML? Most of the time, the answer to that is 'no'.

-Darrel

--
Kim
---------------------------
http://www.geekministry.com

..oO(Michael Lunsford)

So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code.

It never was, but it's still implemented in most browsers.

And why XHTML 1.1? Such pages should be delivered as application/xhtml+
xml, which won't work in IE. Strict HTML 4.01 is still fine and will be
for many years.

In fact, Dreamweaver's built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way to fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Two solutions:

1) Live with the invalid, but browser-compatible code.
2) Use the standards-compliant way with an 'object' element, but then be
prepared for problems in older browsers. But in modern browsers and IE 6
it would work more or less.

Micha

..oO(Michael Lunsford)

So, I insert a flash object on a page. It does the EOLAS thing with the
javascript, but "embed" is no longer valid code.

It never was, but it's still implemented in most browsers.

And why XHTML 1.1? Such pages should be delivered as application/xhtml+
xml, which won't work in IE. Strict HTML 4.01 is still fine and will be
for many years.

In fact, Dreamweaver's built
in validator even shows errors with its methods. Is there an easy way to fix
this, or do I have to recode the whole thing by hand?

Two solutions:

1) Live with the invalid, but browser-compatible code.
2) Use the standards-compliant way with an 'object' element, but then be
prepared for problems in older browsers. But in modern browsers and IE 6
it would work more or less.

Micha

Wow, great replies from everyone. As to IE7 not supporting
application/xml+xhtml -- I am fully aware (and kind of pleased, actually). I'm
using php to read the accept request header. So, if the browser doesn't
specifically state that it accepts the xhtml 1.1, I deliver xhtml 1.0 strict.
The w3c gods consider this method taboo (at best), but that's the only
inclusive solution I can find.

Standards compliance is a personal commitment to quality I made more than a
year ago. Going back to QUIRKS (or invalid but working code) is not an option.
So, I suppose I'll be hearing from all those people who are using antiquated
browsers -- but thanks to EOLAS I was probably hearing from them already.

Moving back to the original question. I suppose the thing to do is hand
re-code the object tag instead of using DW's built in "insert" feature. This
normally wouldn't be so terrible, except for now I'll also have to write and
keep track of my own javascript EOLAS hack.