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Lane Baldwin
 
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Default W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 12:24 PM






I just ran one of my websites (www.laneonbass.com) through
http://validator.w3.org/ and got two errors:

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1. Line 1, column 61: invalid formal public identifier "-//w3c//dtd html
4.01 transitional//en": invalid public text class

....type html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.01 transitional//en">


2. Line 10, column 37: there is no attribute "HEIGHT"

<table width="775" border="0" height="435" cellspacing="10" align="center">

You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the document
type you are using does not support that attribute for this element. This
error is often caused by incorrect use of the "Strict" document type with a
document that uses frames (e.g. you must use the "Transitional" document
type to get the "target" attribute), or by using vendor proprietary
extensions such as "marginheight" (this is usually fixed by using CSS to
achieve the desired effect instead).

This error may also result if the element itself is not supported in the
document type you are using, as an undefined element will have no supported
attributes; in this case, see the element-undefined error message for
further information.

How to fix: check the spelling and case of the element and attribute,
(Remember XHTML is all lower-case) and/or check that they are both allowed
in the chosen document type, and/or use CSS instead of this attribute.

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So...my first question is :What type of document is this? I am *not* a hand
coder to any extent, and honestly don't know how to tell what type of
document this is. Is there an explanation that even non-technical types can
understand?

Second question: How do I solve error two? If I get the doc type correct,
will it go away on its own?

As for accesibility issues, isn't there a site that validates accessibility
of pages? Or would someone here care to offer their feedback?

As always, many thanks to everyone for the assistance and feedback.

Lane



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Default FOLLOW-UP to W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 05:12 PM






OK!! I just validated every page on the www.laneonbass.com site. For you
serious folks, that may not seem like much, but for me it's a first and I'm
relieved!

However, on two of the pages -- even though they validated -- I got warnings
about non-SMGL characters. I have no idea what that means. Could someone
please offer advice, instruction, etc.??

Thanks very much!!

Lane



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Lane Baldwin
 
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Default Re: W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 05:14 PM



Terry,

I went to the Bobby site and it says I have problems. It seems that most of
them relate to the fact that I have graphics and that I've used color to
highlight certain text. If you wouldn't mind, could you please visit

www.laneonbass.com/index.htm

and offer any advice you might have to fix these problems.

I *do* promise to listen!! <smile>

Of course, I'd greatly appreciate the thoughts of others, as well

Lane



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Default Re: W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 05:39 PM



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them relate to the fact that I have graphics
Do you have proper alt attributes for all of your images?

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and that I've used color to
highlight certain text.
You should use semantic markup to emphasize/structure text. For instance,
your 'NEWS FLASH' text is bold red. That doesn't mean anything to a screen
reader or someone using a text browser. You're better off making it
emphasizes:

<em>News Flash</em>

and then style the em tags with css:

em {color: red; font-weight: bold}

-Darrel




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Default Re: W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 06:31 PM




"Lane Baldwin" <lane (AT) NOlanebaldwinSPAM (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Terry,

I went to the Bobby site and it says I have problems. It seems that most
of
them relate to the fact that I have graphics and that I've used color to
highlight certain text. If you wouldn't mind, could you please visit

www.laneonbass.com/index.htm

and offer any advice you might have to fix these problems.

I *do* promise to listen!! <smile

Of course, I'd greatly appreciate the thoughts of others, as well

Lane

Hi Lane,

Bobby can be a bit daunting until you realise he likes the sound of his own
voice. I've had W3C AAA pages fail with Bobby and vice versa. Anyway, I've
just had a very quick look. There is nothing serious and nothing that can't
be easily sorted,but I've had my tablets and am a bit drowsy. I will have a
really good look tomorrow.

Later Dude
or is it
Goodnight old chap

Terry




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Default Re: FOLLOW-UP to W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 06:42 PM




"Lane Baldwin" <lane (AT) NOlanebaldwinSPAM (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
OK!! I just validated every page on the www.laneonbass.com site. For you
serious folks, that may not seem like much, but for me it's a first and
I'm
relieved!

However, on two of the pages -- even though they validated -- I got
warnings
about non-SMGL characters. I have no idea what that means. Could someone
please offer advice, instruction, etc.??

Thanks very much!!

Lane

http://xml.coverpages.org/naggumWhat.html




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Default Re: W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 06:48 PM



Quote:
I've had W3C AAA pages fail with Bobby and vice versa.
Realize that markup validation and accessibility validation can be mutually
exclusive. Good, well formed markup usually makes the page easier to make
accessible, but it isn't necessarily a direct correlation.

-Darrel




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Lane Baldwin
 
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Default Re: FOLLOW-UP to W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 07:44 PM




"webmaster" <terryuse (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
http://xml.coverpages.org/naggumWhat.html


Thanks, Terry. An interesting read. Still don't know which character is
non-SGML, though...

Lane




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Lane Baldwin
 
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Default Re: W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 07:47 PM




"darrel" <notreal (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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them relate to the fact that I have graphics

Do you have proper alt attributes for all of your images?
Yes...but Bobby seems to want "titles" as well.

Quote:
and that I've used color to
highlight certain text.

You should use semantic markup to emphasize/structure text. For instance,
your 'NEWS FLASH' text is bold red. That doesn't mean anything to a screen
reader or someone using a text browser. You're better off making it
emphasizes:

em>News Flash</em

and then style the em tags with css:

em {color: red; font-weight: bold}

Meaning I'm going to need to learn more about CSS....which I knew was in my
future. <smile> Would you happen to know if this is something I can do in
DW4, or will I need a separate CSS editor?

And thanks for your response!

Lane




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Lane Baldwin
 
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Default Re: W3C and Accesibility Validation Help, Please - 07-12-2004 , 07:49 PM




"webmaster" <terryuse (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

Hi Lane,

Bobby can be a bit daunting until you realise he likes the sound of his
own
voice. I've had W3C AAA pages fail with Bobby and vice versa. Anyway,
I've
just had a very quick look. There is nothing serious and nothing that
can't
be easily sorted,but I've had my tablets and am a bit drowsy. I will have
a
really good look tomorrow.
Thanks, Terry. I'll look forward to your thoughts...sleep well.

Quote:
Later Dude
or is it
Goodnight old chap

Either will do...I may be colonial...hopefully that doesn't mean I'm
provincial! <smile>

Lane

Quote:
Terry





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