Very Basic Question

(my site has three main frames, the main text box, the navigation box and a
little contact box...it can be seen http://www.tokyoheights.com ). I made my
current site a loooong time ago via a step by step guide that I no longer have
and can't remember how I did it. I am attempting to make a new site, basically
same layout, just bigger so people don't have to squint as much.)

In photoshop, I slice up my main site image and "save for web" as html and
gif files. When I import it into Dreamweaver 8, I was taught that I then had
to delete the main text sliced images in order to fill it with my text page.
For some reason this works perfectly when I delete the main text box frame, but
whenever I delete the navigation frame image or the contact frame image,
Dreamweaver throws my whole site out of whack with no way of getting it back
into order. I have also tried slicing it every which way and no matter what I
seem to do, the end result is always the same.

What am I doing wrong? If I don't slice it, then how can I put a frame in
there? But when I do slice it, the site gets thrown off by Dreamweaver.

Thanks so much if you can help:confused;

nothing??? Maybe I'm more advanced then I think....

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:54:09 +0000 (UTC), "gurgsprout"
<webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote:

nothing??? Maybe I'm more advanced then I think....

Well, you're using PhotoShop/ImageReady to create your HTML. It's HTML
code that is throwing your page off. Given the horrible code normally
written by image editors, it's going to be very difficult to debug.

It's going to be impossible to debug without seeing it.

Gary

Someone else also mentioned it being an html issue, but unfortunately Im way to
much of a beginner to (1) know what to do about that and (2) tackle flash. You
mentioned being able to see it in order to debug, what can do so you can see
it? Do I attach the file to this or post it online or just cut and paste the
entire code?

Thanks!

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:39:18 +0000 (UTC), "gurgsprout"
<webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote:

Someone else also mentioned it being an html issue, but unfortunately Im way to
much of a beginner to (1) know what to do about that and (2) tackle flash. You
mentioned being able to see it in order to debug, what can do so you can see
it? Do I attach the file to this or post it online or just cut and paste the
entire code?

You upload it somewhere and post a link to it here.

Gary

This is the site with about as far as I can go before screwing the whole thing
up re the problem I wrote about above.
Click http://www.tokyoheights.com/designerdriftwoodprob/index.html

If there is anything else I should post please let me know and Ill do so..
Thanks!

On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:25:34 +0000 (UTC), "gurgsprout"
<webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the site with about as far as I can go before screwing the whole thing
up re the problem I wrote about above.
Click http://www.tokyoheights.com/designerdriftwoodprob/index.html

It's just as I feared. The proliferation of colspan and rowspan
attributes used when ImageReady split and merged table cells has made an
intricate, but extremely fragile table structure. There is no way to
make that structure stable without starting over and abandoning the use
of an automated process, like an image editor, to construct the page
infrastructure.

You can read this fairly short article to see why this is such a bad
idea: http://apptools.com/rants/spans.php

Here are a couple of good tables tutorials that may help you if you
decide to rebuild:
http://www.dwfaq.com/Tutorials/Tables/managing_tables.asp
http://www.dwfaq.com/Tutorials/Tables/flexible_tables.asp

Gary

Ok, well what I ultimately decided to do is just get rid of that contact box
(since it is redundant anyways) and for some reason it now works: click
http://www.tokyoheights.com/ to see it.

Personally, I think the looooong navigation box looks hideous but the tutorial
is too advanced and time consuming for me. I think if I invested more web
development time it would be into flash or something. So Im gonna have to go
with what I have.

HOWEVER, I have ran into yet another problem, if you go to my site (and click
refresh) youll notice a line at the bottom of the text boxes. Why? If its the
frame then how come its not at the top of the boxes as well?? Anyone know how
to get rid of that?

Thanks !

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 03:32:36 +0000 (UTC), "gurgsprout"
<webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote:

Ok, well what I ultimately decided to do is just get rid of that contact box
(since it is redundant anyways) and for some reason it now works: click
http://www.tokyoheights.com/ to see it.

Okay. If that's what you want. I see a page with four scroll bars and a
ton of content stuffed into a tiny box. Not exactly my cup of tea, but
it's your site.

Gary

4 scroll bars?!?!? I only see one, the one for the main text frame. Where are
you seeing the other 3? Can you please take a snapshot of your screen so I can
see what needs work?

I too don't like the layout, but with exams coming up I just don't have the
time needed. I fnd this whole process extremely tedious trial and error which
is not only annoying because it can go on for hours, but especially annoying to
know that if you just had one guy who knew what he was doing stand over your
shoulder, the entire process could be squashed into 15 minutes, as oppose to
countless hours I've already spent on it. Maybe after finals when I have more
patience I'll back to it...