Third Party Content and frames

Hello,
I have some third parties that provide content pages for our website from
their servers. Up until now the only way I have been able to figure out how to
get their content onto our site is using frames and a "remote file" Src in a
frame.

Keeping in mind that I am not a programmer and have very little knowledge of
XML or various other technologies, can someone suggest a simple way (or even a
tutorial) for bringing a remote page into my site without using frames? As can
be expected, I am having some difficulties with frames and would really like to
rid my site of them, I just can't figure out how to get the third parties
content without them.

You can see an example at
http://www.fox41.com/programming/programmingframes.htm

Thanks in advance for the help,
Ken

can someone suggest a simple way (or even a
tutorial) for bringing a remote page into my site without using frames?

There isn't a simple way other than frames.

-Darrel

If it's a cosmetic issue, try using iFrames

Cheers

Dale
"Fox41 Ken" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Hello,
I have some third parties that provide content pages for our website from
their servers. Up until now the only way I have been able to figure out
how to
get their content onto our site is using frames and a "remote file" Src in
a
frame.

Keeping in mind that I am not a programmer and have very little knowledge
of
XML or various other technologies, can someone suggest a simple way (or
even a
tutorial) for bringing a remote page into my site without using frames? As
can
be expected, I am having some difficulties with frames and would really
like to
rid my site of them, I just can't figure out how to get the third parties
content without them.

You can see an example at
http://www.fox41.com/programming/programmingframes.htm

Thanks in advance for the help,
Ken

Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
If it's a cosmetic issue, try using iFrames

Cheers

Dale

Thanks for the reply, Dale.

I was wondering about iFrames, but I also have a page that I am currently
using frames on and also using Contribute 2.1 (or 2.01 -- latest version
anyway). Our banner management software uses iFrames and any page with iFrames
cannot be edited with Contribute for some reason (I have to create a frame
without any banner management to make Contribute work.) So it appears that I
will not be able to rid myself of frames entirely on my site.

It is not truly a cosmetic issue, but the fact that my left side navigation
menu is created as a "pop-out" with JavaScript and it does not pop-out using
frames, instead it pops "under" and is not visible. i would like that menu to
be consistent across the site. Would iFrames resolve that issue? Can you
recommend an article or tutorial on iFrames and how to implement them?

Thanks,
Ken

It is not truly a cosmetic issue, but the fact that my left side
navigation
menu is created as a "pop-out" with JavaScript and it does not pop-out
using
frames, instead it pops "under" and is not visible. i would like that menu
to
be consistent across the site. Would iFrames resolve that issue? Can you
recommend an article or tutorial on iFrames and how to implement them?

Frames and fly-out javascript menus can have issues of their own, but
combining them, as you are finding out, causes even bigger issues.

Unless you are willing to deal with some back end technologies like screen
scraping or XML syndication (which would require the cooperation of the
other parties as well), you're kind of stuck with the frame solution. (BTW,
this solution may go away over time as well as there is talk about
prohibiting a frameset from opening other pages not from the same domain as
the frameset in the future).

So, I'd suggest dropping the javascript menu as your solution.

-Darrel

Or at least converting it to a vertically expanding one....

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"darrel" <notreal (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

It is not truly a cosmetic issue, but the fact that my left side
navigation
menu is created as a "pop-out" with JavaScript and it does not pop-out
using
frames, instead it pops "under" and is not visible. i would like that
menu
to
be consistent across the site. Would iFrames resolve that issue? Can you
recommend an article or tutorial on iFrames and how to implement them?

Frames and fly-out javascript menus can have issues of their own, but
combining them, as you are finding out, causes even bigger issues.

Unless you are willing to deal with some back end technologies like screen
scraping or XML syndication (which would require the cooperation of the
other parties as well), you're kind of stuck with the frame solution.
(BTW,
this solution may go away over time as well as there is talk about
prohibiting a frameset from opening other pages not from the same domain
as
the frameset in the future).

So, I'd suggest dropping the javascript menu as your solution.

-Darrel