Tables, Templetes and IE

I have an issue with the tables in my website and the width changing in IE
(pc). the pages are set up with tables (some of the inside tables are initiated
in excell) and all are in a template. The width of the columns and the width of
the table change in IE. They do ok in Safari, Netscape and IE (mac).
Also the product picture in some browsers does not fit the same, white space
on the left or right.
Are these problems in my template? How can I get the consistency I need before
I build to many more pages?
Any help would be great, I?m a print designer with a huge web task, NEWBIE.


http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/marsh/LF_40-50mm.htm

http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/marsh/LF_63mm_Severe_Serv
ice.htm
http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/belgas/P38.html
http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/index.htm
db

Are these problems in my template?

Template markup can in no way constrain your layout. It's the page's basic
structural design that does that. If you are having table problems on a
template controlled page, you would have the same problems on that page if
it were not a template child page.

Any help would be great, I?m a print designer with a huge web task,
NEWBIE.

It would help you to get everything you know about print out of your brain
when you are working on the web. It's just not print. It doesn't play by
the same rules or have the same 'gestalt'. And for sure, if you have a big
web task, you would be wise to spend alot of time up front with HTML and CSS
before ever coming to Dreamweaver.

Can you point to a specific table on a specific page?

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"dianabog" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

I have an issue with the tables in my website and the width changing in IE
(pc). the pages are set up with tables (some of the inside tables are
initiated
in excell) and all are in a template. The width of the columns and the
width of
the table change in IE. They do ok in Safari, Netscape and IE (mac).
Also the product picture in some browsers does not fit the same, white
space
on the left or right.
Are these problems in my template? How can I get the consistency I need
before
I build to many more pages?
Any help would be great, I?m a print designer with a huge web task,
NEWBIE.


http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/marsh/LF_40-50mm.htm

http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/marsh/LF_63mm_Severe_Serv
ice.htm
http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/belgas/P38.html
http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/index.htm
db

The page below...
http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/marsh/LF_40-50mm.htm
on IE (pc) the table expands outside the 800px. The top portion is a nestled
table. when you get to the gauge--product description--purchase details tr it
shows much wider in IE. There are three other nestled tables under
Specifications, Part Numbers, and Gauge Options.
This may be a shem issue, I understand how shems hold the table open, but can
you 'fix' the width not to go be on a specified width?

db

The outer table is like this -

<table width="806" border="2" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"
bordercolor="#FFFFFF">

and is 4 columns.

The cellpadding and the border combined with the oversized table are what is
blowing your table out. Just for grins, make that outer table 800px wide,
with zero for cellspacing, cellpadding, and border, and make those inner
tables 382px wide. See how the table contracts when you do that? This is
one of the reasons why col- and rowspans are bad for table health. See this
essay -

http://apptools.com/rants/spans.php

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"dianabog" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

The page below...
http://www.marshbellofram.com/e-mail_broadcast/MB_test/marsh/LF_40-50mm.htm
on IE (pc) the table expands outside the 800px. The top portion is a
nestled
table. when you get to the gauge--product description--purchase details tr
it
shows much wider in IE. There are three other nestled tables under
Specifications, Part Numbers, and Gauge Options.
This may be a shem issue, I understand how shems hold the table open, but
can
you 'fix' the width not to go be on a specified width?

db

ok...so is the solution to make the middle section a nestled table 100% or
800px, even with nesled tables inside that?

To get the white boarder, do I use CSS? (yes i am working toward CSS as a
whole, but give me time.) I used CSS for the gray boarder around the product
picture, does that mess with the width?

are you sick of us table people yet?