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several problems/questions, please help -
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and ease of use for non coders |
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1.) After inserting a flash button, how do I make it so when the mouse hovers over the button, a sub menu of flash text appears below the button, I better mention now that I will have several buttons that will all have sub menues of flash text, so the buttons will have to be able to expand downward making room for the flash text between each flash button. |
just plain a bad choice. What about people who don't have the Flash plugin?
Your choice would mean that this menu is completely inaccessible to them.
Furthermore, renaming a single linked file will break every instance of this
menu in the site. Most likely this is why you only see such menus used on
hobby sites (more or less).
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2.) I have created a page entirely from the Draw Layout Cell feature, within the grid at the center I will have all of the sub menues point to that main display area to display whatever its supposed to (say a small article), I have no clue at all on this one, its the most important too (example attached at bottom). |
beginning to get in the way. It not only led you to conceive of this as a
good thing to pursue, but it will also trip you up as you would try to
implement it. Just make a series of flat pages that link one to the other,
and do it the way most of the web does - page a links to page b with new
content..
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3.) I did a forums search for how to center this page in a higher resolution screen |
dimension - it really has nothign to do with centering or anything like
that. If you want to center your content in any width browser viewport you
would need to either put all that content into a centering table, or use CSS
to center it. Either method works.
Sorry, I don't want to seem harsh, but your post is the 'poster child' for
why you will not be able to use Dreamweaver effectively as a non-coder.
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"qwiqshot" <qwiqshot (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote
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Hello I just recently started using Dreamweaver after being shown its capabilities and ease of use for non coders so that should be enough to insinuate you'll need to talk down to me, hehe. Most everything I have tried to do has been easy going, but now I have to large bumbs. 1.) After inserting a flash button, how do I make it so when the mouse hovers over the button, a sub menu of flash text appears below the button, I better mention now that I will have several buttons that will all have sub menues of flash text, so the buttons will have to be able to expand downward making room for the flash text between each flash button. 2.) I have created a page entirely from the Draw Layout Cell feature, within the grid at the center I will have all of the sub menues point to that main display area to display whatever its supposed to (say a small article), I have no clue at all on this one, its the most important too (example attached at bottom). 3.) I did a forums search for how to center this page in a higher resolution screen & found a post that mentions http://www.projectseven.com/extensions/info/layoutDesigner2/ldwindow.htm as a place to get an extension that will get this working, problem is after I download this extension called set the fille in both directories I found under the Macromedia folder that mention downloads & followed the instructions & never could get it to work. Note: To access the <body> tag to apply this behavior, click the <body tag at the bottom left of the Dreamweaver window (the status bar), then open the Behavior panel and confirm that it reads: Behaviors - <body> Actions. Creating a Layout Designer 2 - Screen behavior 1.. Select (click) an element to act as the behavior trigger (usually the body> tag). 2.. Click the plus sign (+) on the Behaviors Panel. 3.. Choose Studio VII - CSS - PVII Layout Designer2 -Screen to open the interface.*******(never found this step)******* 4.. Select a Layer Id. 5.. Select an Align Method. 6.. Enter your desired options. 7.. Click OK to apply the revised behavior. 4.) How do I reduce the gap between the Flash buttons, make the closer together? I am placing several links of the same examples photo as I don't know wich will work in the forums.  img src="http://www.picsplace.to/044722/dwquestion.GIF" http://www.picsplace.to/044722/dwquestion.GIF |
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So now I guess the next question is, how do I link to a cell and then have that cell display differant contents depending on which links has been selected? |
ways):
1. Use an IFrame tag in the cell, and have the link click load the IFrame
with a page depending on the link clicked, or
2. Create dynamic pages where the clicked link calls information from a
database which is then loaded into the cell.
The former method uses a tag that is not well supported by DW (this only
means that you will have to code the nits yourself - might be confusing for
a non-coder!) and that has all the problems usually associated with frames
[1].
The latter method most likely would be beyond your reach just now.
This is why I mentioned that you should just have each link refresh the
browser's viewport with a new page containing the new content.
[1] The reason for using or not using frames should be based on a) your
site's needs, and b) your willingness to accept the potential problems that
frames can create for you as developer and maintainer of the site and for
your visitors as casual users of the site.
I am down on frames because I believe that they create many more problems
than they solve.
Judging from the posts here, and the kinds of problems that are described,
the kind of person most likely to elect to use frames is also the kind of
person most likely ill-prepared fo solve the ensuing problems when they
arise. If you feel a) that you understand the problems and b) that you are
prepared to handle them when they occur, and c) that you have a need to use
frames, then by all means use them.
As far as I know, the most comprehensive discussions of frames and their
potential problems can be found on these two links -
http://apptools.com/rants/framesevil.php
http://www.tjkdesign.com/resources/frames/
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"qwiqshot" <qwiqshot (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote
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Actually, your the kind of opinion I was hoping for, going to scrap the Flash buttons because I think your right. So now I guess the next question is, how do I link to a cell and then have that cell display differant contents depending on which links has been selected? |
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"Draw Frame Cell" |
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What I am wondering is if the principles of frames might be similar |
with notions like this. There is no relationship at all between drawing a
layout cell and creating a frame in a frameset. It's rather like comparing
fish and bicycles.
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Any help there? |
Learn how to work with real HTML tables, and leave the smoke and mirrors
stuff behind.
This is a big leap for a non-coder. Frankly, if you are only interested in
building hobby sites, then perhaps Dreamweaver is not the right tool for
you - and a more visually oriented, wizard based system might be more
appropriate for you. But if it's your intention to take someone's money in
exchange for a site that you build, then I think you have an obligation to
do better than the 'no-code' approach can deliver.
There are many, MANY things that you cannot do at all if you don't work in
the code, and there are 10 times that many things that you cannot fix if you
don't work in the code.
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Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"qwiqshot" <qwiqshot (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote
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how can I name these cells? I once made a page that had 3 main frames, one frame was links, another frame was where these links displayed and the 3rd was just for adds. What I am wondering is if the principles of frames might be similar to what I get when I use the "Draw Frame Cell" feature, if so then I do understand how it works, I will just need to figure out how to name the cells & then figure out where to designate it for the link sake. Any help there? |
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"Draw Frame Cell" Surely you mean "Draw Layout Cell"? What I am wondering is if the principles of frames might be similar One of the problems with not having a coding mindset is that you come up with notions like this. There is no relationship at all between drawing a layout cell and creating a frame in a frameset. It's rather like comparing fish and bicycles. Any help there? Yes - get out of Layout mode! 8) Learn how to work with real HTML tables, and leave the smoke and mirrors stuff behind. This is a big leap for a non-coder. Frankly, if you are only interested in building hobby sites, then perhaps Dreamweaver is not the right tool for you - and a more visually oriented, wizard based system might be more appropriate for you. But if it's your intention to take someone's money in exchange for a site that you build, then I think you have an obligation to do better than the 'no-code' approach can deliver. There are many, MANY things that you cannot do at all if you don't work in the code, and there are 10 times that many things that you cannot fix if you don't work in the code. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "qwiqshot" <qwiqshot (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cndcl5$p6c$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... how can I name these cells? I once made a page that had 3 main frames, one frame was links, another frame was where these links displayed and the 3rd was just for adds. What I am wondering is if the principles of frames might be similar to what I get when I use the "Draw Frame Cell" feature, if so then I do understand how it works, I will just need to figure out how to name the cells & then figure out where to designate it for the link sake. Any help there? |
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So now I guess the next question is, how do I link to a cell and then have that cell display differant contents depending on which links has been selected? There are only two ways I know of to do this (not counting the myriad other ways): 1. Use an IFrame tag in the cell, and have the link click load the IFrame with a page depending on the link clicked, or 2. Create dynamic pages where the clicked link calls information from a database which is then loaded into the cell. The former method uses a tag that is not well supported by DW (this only means that you will have to code the nits yourself - might be confusing for a non-coder!) and that has all the problems usually associated with frames [1]. The latter method most likely would be beyond your reach just now. This is why I mentioned that you should just have each link refresh the browser's viewport with a new page containing the new content. [1] The reason for using or not using frames should be based on a) your site's needs, and b) your willingness to accept the potential problems that frames can create for you as developer and maintainer of the site and for your visitors as casual users of the site. I am down on frames because I believe that they create many more problems than they solve. Judging from the posts here, and the kinds of problems that are described, the kind of person most likely to elect to use frames is also the kind of person most likely ill-prepared fo solve the ensuing problems when they arise. If you feel a) that you understand the problems and b) that you are prepared to handle them when they occur, and c) that you have a need to use frames, then by all means use them. As far as I know, the most comprehensive discussions of frames and their potential problems can be found on these two links - http://apptools.com/rants/framesevil.php http://www.tjkdesign.com/resources/frames/ -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "qwiqshot" <qwiqshot (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cnda2e$lth$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Actually, your the kind of opinion I was hoping for, going to scrap the Flash buttons because I think your right. So now I guess the next question is, how do I link to a cell and then have that cell display differant contents depending on which links has been selected? |
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Yes I meant Draw Layout Cell's and man, you tell it like it is...LOL I hate code, so I guess I better turn around & go home *Bows head and walks away* "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cnddh7$q60$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... "Draw Frame Cell" Surely you mean "Draw Layout Cell"? What I am wondering is if the principles of frames might be similar One of the problems with not having a coding mindset is that you come up with notions like this. There is no relationship at all between drawing a layout cell and creating a frame in a frameset. It's rather like comparing fish and bicycles. Any help there? Yes - get out of Layout mode! 8) Learn how to work with real HTML tables, and leave the smoke and mirrors stuff behind. This is a big leap for a non-coder. Frankly, if you are only interested in building hobby sites, then perhaps Dreamweaver is not the right tool for you - and a more visually oriented, wizard based system might be more appropriate for you. But if it's your intention to take someone's money in exchange for a site that you build, then I think you have an obligation to do better than the 'no-code' approach can deliver. There are many, MANY things that you cannot do at all if you don't work in the code, and there are 10 times that many things that you cannot fix if you don't work in the code. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "qwiqshot" <qwiqshot (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cndcl5$p6c$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... how can I name these cells? I once made a page that had 3 main frames, one frame was links, another frame was where these links displayed and the 3rd was just for adds. What I am wondering is if the principles of frames might be similar to what I get when I use the "Draw Frame Cell" feature, if so then I do understand how it works, I will just need to figure out how to name the cells & then figure out where to designate it for the link sake. Any help there? |
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One last question before I give up on this idea, Could you explain a little more about the IFrame tag you mentioned? I looked all about in the code area and the Insert Tag area and never could locaye it. Thanks "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cndasn$n1f$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... So now I guess the next question is, how do I link to a cell and then have that cell display differant contents depending on which links has been selected? There are only two ways I know of to do this (not counting the myriad other ways): 1. Use an IFrame tag in the cell, and have the link click load the IFrame with a page depending on the link clicked, or 2. Create dynamic pages where the clicked link calls information from a database which is then loaded into the cell. The former method uses a tag that is not well supported by DW (this only means that you will have to code the nits yourself - might be confusing for a non-coder!) and that has all the problems usually associated with frames [1]. The latter method most likely would be beyond your reach just now. This is why I mentioned that you should just have each link refresh the browser's viewport with a new page containing the new content. [1] The reason for using or not using frames should be based on a) your site's needs, and b) your willingness to accept the potential problems that frames can create for you as developer and maintainer of the site and for your visitors as casual users of the site. I am down on frames because I believe that they create many more problems than they solve. Judging from the posts here, and the kinds of problems that are described, the kind of person most likely to elect to use frames is also the kind of person most likely ill-prepared fo solve the ensuing problems when they arise. If you feel a) that you understand the problems and b) that you are prepared to handle them when they occur, and c) that you have a need to use frames, then by all means use them. As far as I know, the most comprehensive discussions of frames and their potential problems can be found on these two links - http://apptools.com/rants/framesevil.php http://www.tjkdesign.com/resources/frames/ -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "qwiqshot" <qwiqshot (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message news:cnda2e$lth$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Actually, your the kind of opinion I was hoping for, going to scrap the Flash buttons because I think your right. So now I guess the next question is, how do I link to a cell and then have that cell display differant contents depending on which links has been selected? |
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