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Default Re: Three levels of templates with conditional navigation menus - 07-16-2003 , 02:57 PM






Well, you said something along the lines that that the "pass through" of
template parameters was very tricky and complex to understand with respect
to nested templates.

Accordingly, I added 2 pictures and more detailed explanations regarding
this, "pass through" of template parameters in the Instruction Manual,
Chapter IV - Template Parameters.

There were already several pictures and a table in that same chapter.

Just wanted to make sure users had some tips and tricks that they could
easily remember when working with that "pass through" thing.

dc
http://www.decloak.com/
decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire




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dc:

I am not sure I see what you are mentioning here?

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"dc" <dc-re-m-o-v-e-me- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Ok, based your comments below regard the setting of template parameter,
I
have added some additional figures on template parameters. Including
some
TIPS and HINTS on if there are being set correctly.

This is available on the free download off the web sites. You just
click
for it, no need for e-mail, name, etc....



http://www.decloak.com/Products/Dreamweaver/NestedTemplates/EvalDownloads.aspx


dc
http://www.decloak.com/
decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire





"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
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dc:

I have not spent enough time with your product to give a comprehensive
evaluation. But the several template sets that I looked at seemed to
be
quite solid and nicely done.

I am not a great fan of nested templates (particularly of passthrough
parameters) because of the huge complexity of the issues involved with
them
and the mind-bending troubleshooting associated with those problems.
I
know
that there is power to be tapped in there but I have treaded very
softly
around the periphery waiting for the need to pounce. Even after
authoring
the chapter in Brad's and my book, I am still just lurking.

It seems you may have shown the way. I will look more closely when I
return
from a 10-day jaunt to the horse trails of Montana....

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"dc" <dc-re-m-o-v-e-me- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Thank you Murry for your honest assessment.

I feel like I was completely open in the "endzone" and I am jumping
up
and
down trying to get the quarterback to throw to me...And finally at
least
the
"quarterback" of this newsgroup saw me.

Oh, wait a second. This analog is American football, not so called,
real
"football", soccer.

Nested Templates are big.....real big....just got to get people to
use
it
once or just to even play around with it.

Nested Template can be sort of comparable to how Novell pioneered
networking
with its tree like interface for viewing the network resources. And
then
how Windows Explorer uses a Tree-like GUI to look at the files on
the
hard
disk of your computer.....

So instead of just looking at files or storing them, Nested Template
actually "creates" files and "manages" them in a tree-like way.

IMO, the multi-lingual ability of Nested Templates (Tongues of Fire)
can
only help the Internet and quite possibly bring the complex frontier
of
web
sites in multiple foreign languages into the mainstream.

And to think from the beginning, all I really wanted to do was
create
a
easy
to use and easily manageable navbar for my web site. Handling
multiple
languages was never intended nor even dreamed of.

dc
http://www.decloak.com/
decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire




http://www.decloak.com/Products/Dreamweaver/NestedTemplates/Demos/NestedT_Tongues_of_Fire/Default.html




"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Glenn:

Frankly, I'd use non-nested as a first approximation simply
because
nested
gets so complex so quickly.

Do have a look at decloak's nested template thing. I have and it
looks
like
a solid implementation.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to make time to look at your pages.

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"GGirlando" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Wow, Murray, i'm looking forward to hearing more!

I will be out for the next couple hours, then i'll check back
when
i
can
to see what you came up with.

It will be great if this is squared away--our completion date is
getting
a
little close for comfort, and i've been torn over the last few
days
over
which route to take--nested or not nested.

Glenn















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Default Re: Three levels of templates with conditional navigation menus - 07-16-2003 , 03:26 PM






Sounds like a nice trip!

From where are you going to Montana? Er, that is, where are you from? And would you do me a favor while you're up there and see how Phil Jackson thinks he is going to handle the addition of Gary Payton and Karl Malone to the Lakers! ;-)




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Default Re: Three levels of templates with conditional navigation menus - 07-16-2003 , 03:48 PM



Glenn:

Philadelphia area - it's about a 5 hour flight through Minneapolis....

I'll give Phila a call as soon as I land! 8)

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"GGirlando" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Sounds like a nice trip!

From where are you going to Montana? Er, that is, where are you from?
And would you do me a favor while you're up there and see how Phil Jackson
thinks he is going to handle the addition of Gary Payton and Karl Malone to
the Lakers! ;-)
Quote:




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Default Re: Three levels of templates with conditional navigation menus - 07-16-2003 , 04:34 PM



dc:

I am not sure I see what you are mentioning here?

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"dc" <dc-re-m-o-v-e-me- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Ok, based your comments below regard the setting of template parameter, I
have added some additional figures on template parameters. Including some
TIPS and HINTS on if there are being set correctly.

This is available on the free download off the web sites. You just click
for it, no need for e-mail, name, etc....


http://www.decloak.com/Products/Dreamweaver/NestedTemplates/EvalDownloads.aspx


dc
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decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire





"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bf3cgc$fsc$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
dc:

I have not spent enough time with your product to give a comprehensive
evaluation. But the several template sets that I looked at seemed to be
quite solid and nicely done.

I am not a great fan of nested templates (particularly of passthrough
parameters) because of the huge complexity of the issues involved with
them
and the mind-bending troubleshooting associated with those problems. I
know
that there is power to be tapped in there but I have treaded very softly
around the periphery waiting for the need to pounce. Even after
authoring
the chapter in Brad's and my book, I am still just lurking.

It seems you may have shown the way. I will look more closely when I
return
from a 10-day jaunt to the horse trails of Montana....

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
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(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"dc" <dc-re-m-o-v-e-me- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Thank you Murry for your honest assessment.

I feel like I was completely open in the "endzone" and I am jumping up
and
down trying to get the quarterback to throw to me...And finally at
least
the
"quarterback" of this newsgroup saw me.

Oh, wait a second. This analog is American football, not so called,
real
"football", soccer.

Nested Templates are big.....real big....just got to get people to use
it
once or just to even play around with it.

Nested Template can be sort of comparable to how Novell pioneered
networking
with its tree like interface for viewing the network resources. And
then
how Windows Explorer uses a Tree-like GUI to look at the files on the
hard
disk of your computer.....

So instead of just looking at files or storing them, Nested Template
actually "creates" files and "manages" them in a tree-like way.

IMO, the multi-lingual ability of Nested Templates (Tongues of Fire)
can
only help the Internet and quite possibly bring the complex frontier
of
web
sites in multiple foreign languages into the mainstream.

And to think from the beginning, all I really wanted to do was create
a
easy
to use and easily manageable navbar for my web site. Handling multiple
languages was never intended nor even dreamed of.

dc
http://www.decloak.com/
decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire



http://www.decloak.com/Products/Dreamweaver/NestedTemplates/Demos/NestedT_Tongues_of_Fire/Default.html




"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bevd1i$3f8$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Glenn:

Frankly, I'd use non-nested as a first approximation simply because
nested
gets so complex so quickly.

Do have a look at decloak's nested template thing. I have and it
looks
like
a solid implementation.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to make time to look at your pages.

--
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"GGirlando" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bevcr5$342$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Wow, Murray, i'm looking forward to hearing more!

I will be out for the next couple hours, then i'll check back when
i
can
to see what you came up with.

It will be great if this is squared away--our completion date is
getting
a
little close for comfort, and i've been torn over the last few days
over
which route to take--nested or not nested.

Glenn













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Default Re: One of four similar audio links does not play - 07-16-2003 , 04:58 PM



Thanks for your response, farazy.

When I checked out the link on my other computer, I got a broken icon (QuickTime). That would seem to parallel what you got on Windows.

What is frustrating to me is that the file plays fine when activated by double clicking.

Unfortunately, the original file from which it was made has been descarded. It would seem ludicrous to me to make a wav file from the mp3 (which contains the same music), but that appears to be my only option. Either that or just get by with the mp3 version on that paragraph.

I'll hang for a bit to see if anyone else has an idea.



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Default Re: Three levels of templates with conditional navigation menus - 07-16-2003 , 04:59 PM



dc:

OK - that was not obvious to me from the content of the page.

Have you read my chapter on passthrough parameters in my book with Brad? I
have to go back to it each time I think about using these....

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"dc" <dc-re-m-o-v-e-me- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Well, you said something along the lines that that the "pass through" of
template parameters was very tricky and complex to understand with respect
to nested templates.

Accordingly, I added 2 pictures and more detailed explanations regarding
this, "pass through" of template parameters in the Instruction Manual,
Chapter IV - Template Parameters.

There were already several pictures and a table in that same chapter.

Just wanted to make sure users had some tips and tricks that they could
easily remember when working with that "pass through" thing.

dc
http://www.decloak.com/
decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire




"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
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dc:

I am not sure I see what you are mentioning here?

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"dc" <dc-re-m-o-v-e-me- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bf4chl$gmk$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Ok, based your comments below regard the setting of template
parameter,
I
have added some additional figures on template parameters. Including
some
TIPS and HINTS on if there are being set correctly.

This is available on the free download off the web sites. You just
click
for it, no need for e-mail, name, etc....




http://www.decloak.com/Products/Dreamweaver/NestedTemplates/EvalDownloads.aspx


dc
http://www.decloak.com/
decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire





"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bf3cgc$fsc$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
dc:

I have not spent enough time with your product to give a
comprehensive
evaluation. But the several template sets that I looked at seemed
to
be
quite solid and nicely done.

I am not a great fan of nested templates (particularly of
passthrough
parameters) because of the huge complexity of the issues involved
with
them
and the mind-bending troubleshooting associated with those problems.
I
know
that there is power to be tapped in there but I have treaded very
softly
around the periphery waiting for the need to pounce. Even after
authoring
the chapter in Brad's and my book, I am still just lurking.

It seems you may have shown the way. I will look more closely when
I
return
from a 10-day jaunt to the horse trails of Montana....

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
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"dc" <dc-re-m-o-v-e-me- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bf2uev$ml1$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Thank you Murry for your honest assessment.

I feel like I was completely open in the "endzone" and I am
jumping
up
and
down trying to get the quarterback to throw to me...And finally at
least
the
"quarterback" of this newsgroup saw me.

Oh, wait a second. This analog is American football, not so
called,
real
"football", soccer.

Nested Templates are big.....real big....just got to get people to
use
it
once or just to even play around with it.

Nested Template can be sort of comparable to how Novell pioneered
networking
with its tree like interface for viewing the network resources.
And
then
how Windows Explorer uses a Tree-like GUI to look at the files on
the
hard
disk of your computer.....

So instead of just looking at files or storing them, Nested
Template
actually "creates" files and "manages" them in a tree-like way.

IMO, the multi-lingual ability of Nested Templates (Tongues of
Fire)
can
only help the Internet and quite possibly bring the complex
frontier
of
web
sites in multiple foreign languages into the mainstream.

And to think from the beginning, all I really wanted to do was
create
a
easy
to use and easily manageable navbar for my web site. Handling
multiple
languages was never intended nor even dreamed of.

dc
http://www.decloak.com/
decloak, Inc.
Tongues of Fire





http://www.decloak.com/Products/Dreamweaver/NestedTemplates/Demos/NestedT_Tongues_of_Fire/Default.html




"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:bevd1i$3f8$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Glenn:

Frankly, I'd use non-nested as a first approximation simply
because
nested
gets so complex so quickly.

Do have a look at decloak's nested template thing. I have and
it
looks
like
a solid implementation.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to make time to look at your pages.

--
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"GGirlando" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Wow, Murray, i'm looking forward to hearing more!

I will be out for the next couple hours, then i'll check back
when
i
can
to see what you came up with.

It will be great if this is squared away--our completion date
is
getting
a
little close for comfort, and i've been torn over the last few
days
over
which route to take--nested or not nested.

Glenn

















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