Re: How long to learn CS3 Web Design?

Hi Alan,
The answer is yes, I'm really looking to design my own golfing website, but I
wanted it to be something "special". I initially went to GoDaddy.com, purchased
the domain name and signed up to use their templates. Once I saw how basic they
were I knew this isn't what I had in mind. I thought once I learned how to use
this program that I could design other sites for myself in the future if this
idea doesn't take off for me. ( once I do stumble upon the BIg Idea, as Donny
Deutch would say , I'd be in a great position to run with it.

Did you ever take the Lynda.com tutorials? The first 12 hours or so are just
"the essentials", as they call them. Learning the tool and document bars etc. I
haven't gotten to any actual applications. I almost want to skip right to it
just to see what's on the horizon. To get some sense of where this is going.
It's like learning about all the ingredients that go into a very very
complicated recipe with no idea at this point of how it all gets pulled
together to actually make the cake. I'm hoping at some point it will walk me
through one of the templates. I've fooled around with one and I can't even
figure out how to change the header size and such. This book I purchased on CS3
for Dummies is apparently a referrence guide. It's not walking me through
anything either. I'm going to keep plugging along. I wish someone would say to
hang in there it will make sense at some point !!!!

Here's the REAL essential that Lynda doesn't tell you about -

Learn HTML and CSS. If you do that, DW will be a snap.

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"kidcoconut" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Hi Alan,
The answer is yes, I'm really looking to design my own golfing website,
but I
wanted it to be something "special". I initially went to GoDaddy.com,
purchased
the domain name and signed up to use their templates. Once I saw how basic
they
were I knew this isn't what I had in mind. I thought once I learned how to
use
this program that I could design other sites for myself in the future if
this
idea doesn't take off for me. ( once I do stumble upon the BIg Idea, as
Donny
Deutch would say , I'd be in a great position to run with it.

Did you ever take the Lynda.com tutorials? The first 12 hours or so are
just
"the essentials", as they call them. Learning the tool and document bars
etc. I
haven't gotten to any actual applications. I almost want to skip right to
it
just to see what's on the horizon. To get some sense of where this is
going.
It's like learning about all the ingredients that go into a very very
complicated recipe with no idea at this point of how it all gets pulled
together to actually make the cake. I'm hoping at some point it will walk
me
through one of the templates. I've fooled around with one and I can't even
figure out how to change the header size and such. This book I purchased
on CS3
for Dummies is apparently a referrence guide. It's not walking me through
anything either. I'm going to keep plugging along. I wish someone would
say to
hang in there it will make sense at some point !!!!

Ace,

Hi, I'm taking your advice and am taking the 3 hour tutorial on HTML on
Lynda.com. So far it's pretty straight forward and easy to understand. I don't
see how this is going to help me all that much in Dreamweaver ( at least from
the first 6 hours I've had in Dreamweaver), but since it's only 3 hours and
seems pretty easy to at least grasp it can't hurt. What is CSS ? You said to
learn CSS and HTML.

Thanks for your help.

I don't
see how this is going to help me all that much in Dreamweaver

When you can code a page by hand, you will understand.

What is CSS ?

http://www.projectseven.com/tutorial...cfly/index.htm
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/...eaver/css.html
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dre...ayout_dw8.html
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/dre..._concepts.html


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"kidcoconut" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Ace,

Hi, I'm taking your advice and am taking the 3 hour tutorial on HTML on
Lynda.com. So far it's pretty straight forward and easy to understand. I
don't
see how this is going to help me all that much in Dreamweaver ( at least
from
the first 6 hours I've had in Dreamweaver), but since it's only 3 hours
and
seems pretty easy to at least grasp it can't hurt. What is CSS ? You said
to
learn CSS and HTML.

Thanks for your help.

Hey Ace, I feel like Hillary Swank complaining to " Mr. Myagi" about "wax on,
wax off ". So I'm going to take a lesson from that profound scene and just do
what you say. It's far enough from April 1st that I'm assuming you wouldn't be
wasting your time just to bust someone's chops you don't know. So thanks for
all the links and the help. I'm back tracking to learn HTML and CSS, or at
least get a general understanding before going back to Dreamweaver. Thanks for
all your help !

ken

"kidcoconut" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

...What is CSS ? You said to
learn CSS and HTML.

Wow.. Murray is 5 states away from me, but I can hear him sighing.. :-D


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Murray *ACE* wrote:

Here's the REAL essential that Lynda doesn't tell you about -

Learn HTML and CSS. If you do that, DW will be a snap.

You can't just say it will be a snap when we know that even if you know

css well, some browser will come along and take out your css. I find
it's difficult to know what is messing with your css.

It's more like an onion and the more you peal away the more layers you
find. Add to that the plethora of other things to learn and you have a
fine mission in front of you: Html, ASP, SQL, CSS, flash, actionscript,
Database Design, Photoshop, Illustrator, Word, ACcess, EXcel, UPS
shipping structure, Javascript, vbscript, dot dot dot.

Of course, learn the basics first, that can't hurt but it's anything but
a snap.

"Art" <lee_nospamification (AT) artjunky (DOT) com> wrote

Murray *ACE* wrote:
Here's the REAL essential that Lynda doesn't tell you about -

Learn HTML and CSS. If you do that, DW will be a snap.

You can't just say it will be a snap when we know that even if you know
css well, some browser will come along and take out your css. I find it's
difficult to know what is messing with your css.

It's more like an onion and the more you peal away the more layers you
find. Add to that the plethora of other things to learn and you have a
fine mission in front of you: Html, ASP, SQL, CSS, flash, actionscript,
Database Design, Photoshop, Illustrator, Word, ACcess, EXcel, UPS shipping
structure, Javascript, vbscript, dot dot dot.

Of course, you could build fine web sites for years without coming near 95%
of what's on that list.


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Free Articles on the Business of Web Development
Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
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Learn HTML and CSS. If you do that, DW will be a snap.

You can't just say it will be a snap when we know that even if you know
css well, some browser will come along and take out your css. I find
it's difficult to know what is messing with your css.

He didn't say that webdev would be a snap, he said that DW would be. One of
the biggest problems for beginners is that DW uses html and css terms in their
property sheets and other interfaces. If the user does not know what these are
and how they work, they are bewilderd. Once you are familiar with html and css,
DW is much more intuitive and you really don't need to spend anytime with
training videos or tutorials, excepting maybe to learn the features that are
unique to DW like templates and site setup and behaviors.