Question on window resizing......

.oO(Murray *TMM*)

As long as it's in a popup window it's fine. If it's the main browser
window it's rude. You change the size when I come in, but you don't change
it back when I leave. That's rude.

It's part of your XPerience. If you don't like it you're a bad user.
The designer knows better what you really want.

Micha

"The designer knows better what you really want"

If your goal by visiting a site is to experience the specific vision of a
designer, then your sarcastic statement is true, making it rather funny. But if
that isn't your goal when visiting any other McSite out there, then the sarcasm
is appropriate.

If your goal by visiting a site is to experience the specific vision
of a designer,

Fair enough but how many designers make it clear to their visitors that what
they're about to experience is going to change their browsing environment?

In my experience, such sites just take over my screen without asking.

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Regards

John Waller

bmargolas wrote:

If your goal by visiting a site is to experience the specific vision of a
designer, then your sarcastic statement is true, making it rather funny. But if
that isn't your goal when visiting any other McSite out there, then the sarcasm
is appropriate.

99% of the people surfing couldn't care less about the designer. They
care about the content and being able to get that content easily.


Gary

.oO(bmargolas)

"The designer knows better what you really want"

If your goal by visiting a site is to experience the specific vision of a
designer, then your sarcastic statement is true, making it rather funny.

Maybe, but many designers don't seem to care about their visitors,
building their websites only to proof themselves and their skills as an
artist. Of course they're free to do so, I don't have to understand it.

It's not that difficult to keep a website usable even for people who are
not looking for the designer's ultimate "vision", but for _content_.

Not to forget the users with the most disabilities - search engines.

Micha

And remember - the vast majority of surfers use the web to get information,
not to have a spiritual experience. Your first responsibility as a
developer is to provide information, in my opinion.

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"Michael Fesser" <netizen (AT) gmx (DOT) net> wrote

.oO(bmargolas)

"The designer knows better what you really want"

If your goal by visiting a site is to experience the specific vision of
a
designer, then your sarcastic statement is true, making it rather funny.

Maybe, but many designers don't seem to care about their visitors,
building their websites only to proof themselves and their skills as an
artist. Of course they're free to do so, I don't have to understand it.

It's not that difficult to keep a website usable even for people who are
not looking for the designer's ultimate "vision", but for _content_.

Not to forget the users with the most disabilities - search engines.

Micha

Hmmm....Philosophy....Never thought Id come across that here of all places. I
guess you can philosphize about most anything come to think about it
(philosophy in itself). I guess philosophy stops when instead of talking to
someone about your opinion, you force it upon them. That goes from philosphy
to tyranny. Could it be that exlpaining to someone why you think they should
view a site a certain way is expressing an opinion (even an opinion about your
own work), but forcing them to see something a certain way is tyranny (in a
form)? Maybe they would appreciate it more seeing it from their own
perspective rather than the one you think would be best? Im much more apt to
think a sunset is beautiful from where Im standing, rather than having to move
from my comfort zone to see it from where you are. But that is just my
philosophy. Look at it however you wish.

Could it be that
exlpaining to someone why you think they should view a site a certain
way is expressing an opinion (even an opinion about your own work),
but forcing them to see something a certain way is tyranny (in a
form)? Maybe they would appreciate it more seeing it from their own
perspective rather than the one you think would be best?

Quite an erudite abstraction going on there.

We're simply talking about your websites being viewed on other people's
computers. They've got things set up the way they need/like. Hijacking their
preferences in their environment could perhaps be akin to going into a
strangers loungeroom and moving their furniture around to suit yourself.
Good web design is a case of respecting the way they have things set up and
making sure you can get your message across regardless of their preferences
and browsing environment.


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Regards

John Waller

Hmmm...so less like tyranny, and more like Hijacking. Ya, I could see that. =-)