PopupMenus: Diff.frame panels AND buttonover state

I have created a popup menu, and I want it to

a) Keep it's button-over state whilst the mouse is on the menu
b) Open up in a different frame

I came accross answer to both of these problems seperately:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/fireworks/ts/documents/popm_ovrlap_fw.htm

The tutorials work fine serperately. When I try and do both, I get the popup
in the different frame as desired, the button over state whilst mouse is on
popup as required, but it doens't restore when mouse is off the popup.

please can someone tell me how I get the image to restore back to the button
off state when the mouse is off the popup?
Is it possible?

Thank you

Read this carefully -

http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php

You don't want to use this workaround you found on the MM site....

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"Simon_Brading" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

I have created a popup menu, and I want it to

a) Keep it's button-over state whilst the mouse is on the menu
b) Open up in a different frame

I came accross answer to both of these problems seperately:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/fireworks/ts/documents/popm_ovrlap_fw.htm

The tutorials work fine serperately. When I try and do both, I get the
popup
in the different frame as desired, the button over state whilst mouse is
on
popup as required, but it doens't restore when mouse is off the popup.

please can someone tell me how I get the image to restore back to the
button
off state when the mouse is off the popup?
Is it possible?

Thank you

Thank you

Is there not a quick way using the work arounds on the mm site?

Those sites tell you how to build a popup menu from scratch. But if I learn
how to do that, will what I've learned answer my original question?

Thank you for your help

The pop-up menus are a badly flawed system. Combine them with another
troublesome system (frames) and you have a big mess.

Please read these carefully -

http://apptools.com/rants/framesevil.php
http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php

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"Simon_Brading" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Thank you

Is there not a quick way using the work arounds on the mm site?

Those sites tell you how to build a popup menu from scratch. But if I
learn
how to do that, will what I've learned answer my original question?

Thank you for your help

Simon,

I too am trying to insert pop-up menus that will cross into a different frame
when mouse-over is applied. However, I do not have fireworks, do you know any
other way of achieving frame-crossing? Any help would be greatly appreciated
it. Sorry for compounding my question with your question.

There is no practical way to make a layer (that's how drop-down menus work)
cross the boundary between two separate frames (i.e., two unique HTML
pages).

It is true. Your choices are limited now -

1. DUMP THE FRAMES - you would not be having this problem in a non-framed
site.
2. Redesign your menus so that they do not need to span a frame boundary.
3. Redesign the frameset so that you leave enough room for the largest
popup.
4. Move the layer code for the popups from the page in the navigation frame
to each page in the content frame.
5. DUMP THE FRAMES - you would not be having this problem in a non-framed
site.

I recommend either #1 or #5, depending on what your needs are. You just
have no idea the horrors that await you if you continue with the frames.....
8)

As for the pop-ups, read this -

http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php

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"MCapIT" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Simon,

I too am trying to insert pop-up menus that will cross into a different
frame
when mouse-over is applied. However, I do not have fireworks, do you know
any
other way of achieving frame-crossing? Any help would be greatly
appreciated
it. Sorry for compounding my question with your question.