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Chris In Madison
 
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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:30 PM






True, enough. Windows running in VPC is Windows. Linux running in VPC is
Linux, etc.

:-)

Chris



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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:32 PM






darrel wrote:

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If you don't mind me asking since VPC is ranked as pretty unstable and
will likely cause issues with your Macintosh OS:


VPC is very stable. At least for me. I have it running perpetually on my old
G4 tower.

Yea, windows inside of it crashes on occasion, but that's par for the
course!

But, yes, getting a cheap used PC is certainly a viable solution as
well...if you ahve the desk space, of course. When on the road, carrying
both a Mac and Windows laptop just to check websites is rather cumbersome
;o)

-Darrel


I've heard lots of not-so-nice things about VPC. Also, haven't the
developer deserted the product?
Anyway, to me it seems an awfully awkward way to get what's easier
achieved doing the "real" thing (this thread proves my point).

About mobility: Here in Swedeland we don't buy laptops at all. That's
for chickens and Wall Street wannabes. We carry the desktop computers as
they are, and since we have two arms, a Mac and a PC won't be that
difficult, perhaps a bit in the way when we're fencing off polar bears.
That's all....

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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:32 PM



Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:

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If you don't mind me asking since VPC is ranked as pretty unstable and
will likely cause issues with your Macintosh OS:
Hummm I havent heard that. Not read that anywhere. If I had I probably
wouldnt have gone down that root. I guess time will tell.


Why don't you just buy
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an old PC right away? I got one for GBP 250 and is using it for e.g.
testing sites.
That thought had crossed my mind but I then would have had the problems
of connecting the two, which in my experience, either works first time
or doesnt work at all.


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I have it hooked up the the Mac, and when I like to view a site that
resides in the Mac's "sites" folder in it, I just click the bookmarks
I've arranged. As Murray says: Badabing, badaboom.
Well if I do decide to take that root I'll be asking you for advise on
how to connect the two together. Quite frankly I have no idea. The last
time I networked two macs together was a big issue so I cant begin to
imagine what problems would be encountered when hitching a mac and a PC
over a network.



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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:38 PM



Before Microsoft acquired VPC from Connectix, you could get several of
different "language packs", including Linux, DOS, Windows 2000 and a couple
of others. Not sure if they're still available, though...

~Chris



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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:41 PM



For the most part, it isn't too bad, but it certainly has its moments. It's
not as easy as it should be in some cases.

~Chris

"Osgood" <notavailable (AT) atthisaddress (DOT) com> wrote

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Well if I do decide to take that root I'll be asking you for advise on
how to connect the two together. Quite frankly I have no idea. The last
time I networked two macs together was a big issue so I cant begin to
imagine what problems would be encountered when hitching a mac and a PC
over a network.




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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:46 PM



Osgood wrote:

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Might have to investigate getting another OS then . Is it possible to
purchase stand alone OS's or would I have to puchase another VPC with a
specific OS with IE5.5 on it?
You used to be able to by "OS Packs" with different versions of Windows,
which came with all of the basic stuff, like IE, already installed. It
was like buying a bare-bones Windows machine with no OEM software added.
Each OS Pack installed over the same underlying VPC. Since Microsoft
bought VPC, I don't know if you can still get OS Packs. I scrambled and
got my OS Packs from mail-order when I heard abut the Microsoft acquisition.

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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:48 PM



Chris In Madison wrote:

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VPC *is* Windows, therefore there shouldn't be any difference. :-)
No it's not. It's a virtual machine which can run any version of Windows
that you can find an OS Pack for. I've heard you can even take an
off-the-shelf Windows CD and install it into VPC, but I've never had to
do that. VPC can also run any other OS that can be run on a PC.


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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:49 PM



Right, thanks. I'll investigate further.


James Shook wrote:

Quote:
Osgood wrote:

Might have to investigate getting another OS then . Is it possible to
purchase stand alone OS's or would I have to puchase another VPC with
a specific OS with IE5.5 on it?


You used to be able to by "OS Packs" with different versions of Windows,
which came with all of the basic stuff, like IE, already installed. It
was like buying a bare-bones Windows machine with no OEM software added.
Each OS Pack installed over the same underlying VPC. Since Microsoft
bought VPC, I don't know if you can still get OS Packs. I scrambled and
got my OS Packs from mail-order when I heard abut the Microsoft
acquisition.



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James Shook
 
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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:51 PM



Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:

Quote:
If you don't mind me asking since VPC is ranked as pretty unstable and
will likely cause issues with your Macintosh OS: Why don't you just buy
an old PC right away?
I'm not Osgood, but VPC has been rock-solid for me in OS X and OS 9.
(Except for Windows crashes, of course, but you just reboot Windows--it
doesn't affect the Mac OS.) Checking web pages is all I do in Windows,
so it hardly seems worth it to devote any desk space to a dedicated
Windows box.

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James Shook
 
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Default Re: OT: Virtual PC for Mac. - 07-21-2004 , 02:53 PM



Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:


Quote:
I've heard lots of not-so-nice things about VPC. Also, haven't the
developer deserted the product?
Anyway, to me it seems an awfully awkward way to get what's easier
achieved doing the "real" thing (this thread proves my point).

"Microsoft didn't buy us out. We deserted the product!"

Sure :-)

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