OT: Virtual PC for Mac.

#21

darrel wrote:

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BTW, the more files you add to the VPC the more the VPC disk image can get
bloated. While there is a tool in VPC to shrink your disk image, it doesnt'
really work, and, over time, your image will grow gigabyte by gigabyte. I
eventually shrank down one of my images but it was a huge chore (involving
various share ware apps that zero out disk space).

So now, I only install applications into my actual disk image. Every other
file/document is stored on a virtual drive in VPC which is actually a shared
folder on my Mac. The added bonus is that any files you work on in VPC can
easily be backed up (otherwise, you need to back up the entire disk image
and extract files out of it later).

Those are all good points. I haven't tried to manage the VPC disk image.
But now that I don't have to copy files to it, it will more-or-less
freeze at its present size, I should think. And my normal backup routine
will get everything. (Although so far I don't have any files in VPC that
are unique--I use it just for browser testing and was copying files from
the Mac side.)

Sharing the folder also makes version skew problems go away as well :-)

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#22

James Shook wrote:

If you are on dial-up, initiate your internet connection on

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the Mac first however you do it and then run VPC. See if that makes any
difference.

Unfortunately it doesn't. Im connected all the time through the day on
dial up.

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I don't think there's any way to stop IE making an automatic connection
when it launches. Perhaps if you find the preferences for automatic
Windows updating (I saw it once, god knows where it is) and turn it off,
IE won't try to connect.

Well at least I think I've found away to cancel this, so alls well at
the moment.

#23

Thanks Chris. I'll find it somewhere im sure.

Chris In Madison wrote:

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If the IPs don't show up in either of your panels, a quick trip to the
command line should reveal it for you:

ifconfig -a

Look for the "eth0" device :-)

Best regards,
Chris

#24

How relaible is VPC in terns of it rendering a page as it will be
rendered on an actual PC browser?

The reaon I asked is because I thought PC IE5x didnt show padding
correctly on a <div>?

<style>
#one {
width: 400px;
background-color: #ab1;
height: 20px;
}
#two {
width: 400px;
background-color: #000;
height: 20px;
padding-left: 10px;
padding-right: 10px;
}

<body>
<div id="one"></div>
<div id="two"></div>
</body>

If I view this simple test page in either IE5.0 or 5.5 in VPC I see two
<divs>. Div #two is longer than Div #one when it should be the same
length if according to what is said the padding gets added to the inside
of the <div>?

It shows it exactly the same as when viewing in browsers that get the
application of the padding corrcetly.

darrel wrote:

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You Fool!

(Glad I could help ;o)

BTW, the more files you add to the VPC the more the VPC disk image can get
bloated. While there is a tool in VPC to shrink your disk image, it doesnt'
really work, and, over time, your image will grow gigabyte by gigabyte. I
eventually shrank down one of my images but it was a huge chore (involving
various share ware apps that zero out disk space).

So now, I only install applications into my actual disk image. Every other
file/document is stored on a virtual drive in VPC which is actually a shared
folder on my Mac. The added bonus is that any files you work on in VPC can
easily be backed up (otherwise, you need to back up the entire disk image
and extract files out of it later).

-Darrel

#25

Osgood wrote:

Quote:

How relaible is VPC in terns of it rendering a page as it will be
rendered on an actual PC browser?

The reaon I asked is because I thought PC IE5x didnt show padding
correctly on a <div>?

Are you SURE you are using IE5? With MS's automatic bug-fix pipeline it
is very easy to accept a patch that turns IE5 into IE6. That's why I
have two OSs in VPC--so I can be sure I always have IE5.5 *and* IE6, one
in each OS.

--
James M. Shook
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#26

VPC *is* Windows, therefore there shouldn't be any difference. :-)

Best regards,
Chris

"Osgood" <notavailable (AT) atthisaddress (DOT) com> wrote

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How relaible is VPC in terns of it rendering a page as it will be
rendered on an actual PC browser?

#27

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VPC *is* Windows, therefore there shouldn't be any difference. :-)

Well, technically, VPS *emulates* an Intel Chipset. Which then allows
Windows to run on it.

So, therefore, Windows running in VPC *is* windows. ;o)

-Darrel

#28

Osgood wrote:

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I've been playing around with Virtual PC 6 for Mac now for few days but
need some clarification on a few things.

Os,

If you don't mind me asking since VPC is ranked as pretty unstable and
will likely cause issues with your Macintosh OS: Why don't you just buy
an old PC right away? I got one for GBP 250 and is using it for e.g.
testing sites. Not the fastest <g>, but it runs Win XP, and the missus
and kid is using it for web browsing, e-mail, games, etc.

I have it hooked up the the Mac, and when I like to view a site that
resides in the Mac's "sites" folder in it, I just click the bookmarks
I've arranged. As Murray says: Badabing, badaboom.

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#29

James Shook wrote:

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Are you SURE you are using IE5? With MS's automatic bug-fix pipeline it
is very easy to accept a patch that turns IE5 into IE6. That's why I
have two OSs in VPC--so I can be sure I always have IE5.5 *and* IE6, one
in each OS.

No, Im not sure of anything at the moment. I just downloaded the zip
files from the suggested site and transfered the resulting folders over
to the VPC desktop, opened the folder and clicked onto the IE icon as
per the instructions.

When I clicked onto the IE icon it didn't install anything it just
opened up the IE browser. There are a lot of other files, .dll .cpl
..tlb, in the folders, which I was rather thinking would be installed
somewhere to make this function correctly but this didnt happen.

Never heard of the 'automatic bug fix' but it sure does seem as though
something like that is happening.

Might have to investigate getting another OS then . Is it possible to
purchase stand alone OS's or would I have to puchase another VPC with a
specific OS with IE5.5 on it?

#30

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If you don't mind me asking since VPC is ranked as pretty unstable and
will likely cause issues with your Macintosh OS:

VPC is very stable. At least for me. I have it running perpetually on my old
G4 tower.

Yea, windows inside of it crashes on occasion, but that's par for the
course!

But, yes, getting a cheap used PC is certainly a viable solution as
well...if you ahve the desk space, of course. When on the road, carrying
both a Mac and Windows laptop just to check websites is rather cumbersome
;o)

-Darrel