OT: Virtual PC for Mac.

darrel wrote:

No. You're all making this more complicated than it needs to be. ;o)

lol. Its a struggle when I'm let loose anywhere near something new

Chris's advice isn't bad, of course. It's nice especially if you are writing
in PHP or something where you need the server to actually parse the code.

I need to think this through more carefully. At the moment, as Chris
says, using localhost/blah blah/ just results in the browser trying to
connect to the internet.

I need to find the IP address and see if that works. It doesnt show in
the file sharing panel but I know it begins with 192.. Im not really
connected to anything, apart from the electricity and the internet. Its
a stand alone computer.

However, if we're just talking straight HTML pages, you can just have
Virtual PC map a folder on your mac to a drive in Windows.

For instance, I have a folder called JOBS that I place all of my project in.

In VPC I go to SHARE FOLDER, select JOBS from my mac, and then it appears in
Windows as drive 'X:' So, as far as Windows is concerned, it just sees that
as another drive. Any changes I make in my JOBS folder is automatically seen
in my X: drive in windows.

EXCELLENT!. That seems to work wonderfully. I was even able to sort out
the problem I had with IE not allowing me to browse out to the file I
needed to test.

Thanks.

Hi Osgood,

The Internet, no. A network, probably. If I remember correctly, Macs won't
initialize the IP stack if it doesn't see the NIC in use. So if that's the
case, then there's a pretty good chance that VPC won't either, and you won't
be able to access the Mac's web server.

Best regards,
Chris

Osgood wrote:

The other browsers which I have installed on VPC, NN7 and Mozilla.9, at
the moment I can open them up and then go to File>Open>then browse to
the html file I want to check out, which is good. IE doesn't let me do
this. When I open that browser it tries for ages to connect to the
internet, which I am already connected to via the Mac. It lets me choose
File>Open but nothing after that. It wont let me browse to a specific
htm file. Is that something that you experience?

No, I have no problems opening local files from within IE, although the
process is rather idiotic (too many mouse clicks and dialogs to navigate
through. Yes, I *already told you* I want to load this file. Sheesh!)

I have two VPCs

XP Pro:
IE6
NN7
Mozilla
NN4.7
Firefox
Opera

Windows 98
IE5.5
NN4.7
and maybe some others

Maybe I can stop it trying to automatically connecting to the internet,
which I dont want to do anyway. I can't seem to find any preferences or
set-up which will allow me to do this.

I have set IE's preferences to show a blank page on startup. IE does
automatically connect to the internet, however, because every once and a
while, despite what I want it to do, it takes me to microsoft.com for
yet more security updates.

--
James M. Shook
http://www.jshook.com

If the IPs don't show up in either of your panels, a quick trip to the
command line should reveal it for you:

ifconfig -a

Look for the "eth0" device :-)

Best regards,
Chris

darrel wrote:

In VPC I go to SHARE FOLDER, select JOBS from my mac, and then it appears in
Windows as drive 'X:' So, as far as Windows is concerned, it just sees that
as another drive. Any changes I make in my JOBS folder is automatically seen
in my X: drive in windows.

Good lord! What a fool I've been all this time. I never bothered to see
if this could be done. Thanks for the tip--no more copying to VPC. I now
have a PC volume pointing to my Macintosh work folder.

Thanks again.

--
James M. Shook
http://www.jshook.com

My advice is kinda tainted. I don't have Virtual PC, I have
Real-Live-Take-Up-More-Space-In-My-Office-PC. So I tend to do things a
little differently :-) Last time I ever messed with VPC was ages ago, and
it wasn't nearly as flexible as it is now. If I need to access my PC, I
just use Microsoft Remote Desktop to get to my server. Kinda the same
thing, only different ;-)

Best regards,
Chris

Maybe you shouldn't channel Mae West so often, James....

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"James Shook" <jshook (AT) dont_mail (DOT) com> wrote

darrel wrote:

In VPC I go to SHARE FOLDER, select JOBS from my mac, and then it
appears in
Windows as drive 'X:' So, as far as Windows is concerned, it just sees
that
as another drive. Any changes I make in my JOBS folder is automatically
seen
in my X: drive in windows.

Good lord! What a fool I've been all this time. I never bothered to see
if this could be done. Thanks for the tip--no more copying to VPC. I now
have a PC volume pointing to my Macintosh work folder.

Thanks again.

--
James M. Shook
http://www.jshook.com

Osgood wrote:

Maybe I can stop it trying to automatically connecting to the internet,
which I dont want to do anyway. I can't seem to find any preferences or
set-up which will allow me to do this.

I think the difference between our experiences is down to the fact that
I have a cable modem which is always on. So IE/VPC can just phone home
on its own. If you are on dial-up, initiate your internet connection on
the Mac first however you do it and then run VPC. See if that makes any
difference.

I don't think there's any way to stop IE making an automatic connection
when it launches. Perhaps if you find the preferences for automatic
Windows updating (I saw it once, god knows where it is) and turn it off,
IE won't try to connect.

--
James M. Shook
http://www.jshook.com

Good lord! What a fool I've been all this time. I never bothered to see
if this could be done. Thanks for the tip--no more copying to VPC. I now
have a PC volume pointing to my Macintosh work folder.

You Fool!

(Glad I could help ;o)

BTW, the more files you add to the VPC the more the VPC disk image can get
bloated. While there is a tool in VPC to shrink your disk image, it doesnt'
really work, and, over time, your image will grow gigabyte by gigabyte. I
eventually shrank down one of my images but it was a huge chore (involving
various share ware apps that zero out disk space).

So now, I only install applications into my actual disk image. Every other
file/document is stored on a virtual drive in VPC which is actually a shared
folder on my Mac. The added bonus is that any files you work on in VPC can
easily be backed up (otherwise, you need to back up the entire disk image
and extract files out of it later).

-Darrel

James Shook wrote:

No, I have no problems opening local files from within IE,

I think I must have downloaded a corrupt version from the main 'browser
archive' website (name escapes me, evolt, or something like that.

I went to the link that Darrel supplied and downloaded 5.01 and it works
ok but I have to click onto the 'x' icon in the menu bar, otherwise it
just keeps trying to download the Microsoft home page. Of course it cant
because Im not connected via XP.

although the

process is rather idiotic (too many mouse clicks and dialogs to navigate
through. Yes, I *already told you* I want to load this file. Sheesh!)

lol, yes, I agree. How many times does it need to ask if I want to open
a file I have already selected.

I have set IE's preferences to show a blank page on startup. IE does
automatically connect to the internet, however, because every once and a
while, despite what I want it to do, it takes me to microsoft.com for
yet more security updates.

Ok, good idea. Maybe now I can get some sort of response from the
browser I might be able to find the menu that lets me do that.

Thanks.