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I have a dot matrix printer you can HAVE! Got a free parallel port? -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g3oj$918$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Great minds think alike, I guess, John, because those are all of the considerations my brother and I have been talking about endlessly for the past few weeks, and we've come to the same conclusions as you on just about everything. Windows Vista will take care of a lot of security issues. We're going to set him up with the free AVG Anti-Virus so that he doesn't have to keep paying. And yes, if there's such thing as a simple black-and-white inkjet printer left in the world, I hope we can find it! :-) -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "John T Smith" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5fvlv$4jb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... A few other (random) thoughts A USB mouse will most likely be easier to use than the built in mouse pad... my wife (main user, when it is used) and I just do not like rubbing a thumb across a section of the computer Once he uses it it awhile, you may need to add a USB keyboard... I took our laptop with me when I was on a week long training trip recently, and "struggled" with the keyboard a bit... and this is on a wide model to accomodate the wide screen... it was usable, but I wouldn't want to HAVE to use it for very long Sadly... make sure it has (or buy and install) a good Internet security program... I use Norton which is "OK" if a bit "noisy" about patting itself on the back with notice popups... but do make sure you tell him that when the introductory period is over, he MUST pay the subscription fee to keep the product up to date so his computer doesn't get infected I work at a University so get good prices (sometimes free) on all Microsoft products... so use MS Office to match work... but I've read that Open Office does very well, so he should be happy with that If you also buy him a printer, consider how much and how often he will use it, and does he want color or just b&w For b&w I use an HP 1012 at work (current model is probably a later number) which is reasonably fast and, like all HP of that size, has the toner and drum in one unit so every time the toner runs out, you are also replacing the drum (Brother multi-function laser I have at home is separate components, and the drum is spendy) For color, I would stay AWAY from Epson... we had an Epson color inkjet, and found that if you didn't use it every day (which we didn't since we share the Brother laser) the ink jets would dry out and clog in a very short time (replaced by Epson twice, then we just threw it away) Wife now uses a Canon (can't remember the model) and even not using it every day (just when she wants to print a garden pic with color, to go in her plant book... or a snapshot of someone) she's not had problems with the ink head |
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Thanks, Darrel, but we don't want to go the Mac route. There's nobody in the family to support him on a Mac. |
anywhere near an Apple store, the one-hour newbie class is all he likely
needs, and from that point on, there's really nothing you'd need to support.
The main benefit is it's a lot harder to get a virus/spyware/adware
installed on a Mac. I've set up a few relatives with a fairly secure Windows
set up, but even then it eventually requires me spending a saturday
upgrading/fixing the thing at some point in the future.
I'm definitely not trying to start a OSX vs. Windows thing here. I just
personally hate supporting relatives' windows boxes as they are out of my
control and when they go bad, they go REALLY bad.
-Darrel
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The last thing he needs to do is have to deal with a touchpad WHILE he's climbing that whole learning curve. |
I wonder if they really are any more confusing than a trackpad for anyone
that hasn't really used computers. It'd be an interesting study...
Our generation probably can't think of using anything but the mouse, but the
previous generation probably can't stand anything but the keyboard, and the
new generation probably can't stand anything that's not an iphone touch
screen or miniscule 10-digit texting keyboard. ;o)
-Darrel
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Murray, you don't have any idea about my Flash audio player display problem, my other thread? :-\ -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "Murray *ACE*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g40l$96v$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... I have a dot matrix printer you can HAVE! Got a free parallel port? -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g3oj$918$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Great minds think alike, I guess, John, because those are all of the considerations my brother and I have been talking about endlessly for the past few weeks, and we've come to the same conclusions as you on just about everything. Windows Vista will take care of a lot of security issues. We're going to set him up with the free AVG Anti-Virus so that he doesn't have to keep paying. And yes, if there's such thing as a simple black-and-white inkjet printer left in the world, I hope we can find it! :-) -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "John T Smith" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5fvlv$4jb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... A few other (random) thoughts A USB mouse will most likely be easier to use than the built in mouse pad... my wife (main user, when it is used) and I just do not like rubbing a thumb across a section of the computer Once he uses it it awhile, you may need to add a USB keyboard... I took our laptop with me when I was on a week long training trip recently, and "struggled" with the keyboard a bit... and this is on a wide model to accomodate the wide screen... it was usable, but I wouldn't want to HAVE to use it for very long Sadly... make sure it has (or buy and install) a good Internet security program... I use Norton which is "OK" if a bit "noisy" about patting itself on the back with notice popups... but do make sure you tell him that when the introductory period is over, he MUST pay the subscription fee to keep the product up to date so his computer doesn't get infected I work at a University so get good prices (sometimes free) on all Microsoft products... so use MS Office to match work... but I've read that Open Office does very well, so he should be happy with that If you also buy him a printer, consider how much and how often he will use it, and does he want color or just b&w For b&w I use an HP 1012 at work (current model is probably a later number) which is reasonably fast and, like all HP of that size, has the toner and drum in one unit so every time the toner runs out, you are also replacing the drum (Brother multi-function laser I have at home is separate components, and the drum is spendy) For color, I would stay AWAY from Epson... we had an Epson color inkjet, and found that if you didn't use it every day (which we didn't since we share the Brother laser) the ink jets would dry out and clog in a very short time (replaced by Epson twice, then we just threw it away) Wife now uses a Canon (can't remember the model) and even not using it every day (just when she wants to print a garden pic with color, to go in her plant book... or a snapshot of someone) she's not had problems with the ink head |
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if there's such thing as a simple black-and-white inkjet printer left in the world, I hope we can find it! :-) |
If you do, good luck with finding a Vista driver
If he doesn't need color, I would say go with a low-end HP laser of whatever
model is current... the HP 1012 I have @work has done very well for the 2+
years I've had it (replaced a Brother that simply wore out) printing 20 to 100
pages per work day
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Thanks, Darrel, but we don't want to go the Mac route. There's nobody in the family to support him on a Mac. I know it sounds odd, but that's exactly why I suggested it. If he's anywhere near an Apple store, the one-hour newbie class is all he likely needs, and from that point on, there's really nothing you'd need to support. The main benefit is it's a lot harder to get a virus/spyware/adware installed on a Mac. I've set up a few relatives with a fairly secure Windows set up, but even then it eventually requires me spending a saturday upgrading/fixing the thing at some point in the future. I'm definitely not trying to start a OSX vs. Windows thing here. I just personally hate supporting relatives' windows boxes as they are out of my control and when they go bad, they go REALLY bad. -Darrel |
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No sorry. I eschew in the general direction of Flash. 8) -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g483$9hb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Murray, you don't have any idea about my Flash audio player display problem, my other thread? :-\ -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "Murray *ACE*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g40l$96v$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... I have a dot matrix printer you can HAVE! Got a free parallel port? -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g3oj$918$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Great minds think alike, I guess, John, because those are all of the considerations my brother and I have been talking about endlessly for the past few weeks, and we've come to the same conclusions as you on just about everything. Windows Vista will take care of a lot of security issues. We're going to set him up with the free AVG Anti-Virus so that he doesn't have to keep paying. And yes, if there's such thing as a simple black-and-white inkjet printer left in the world, I hope we can find it! :-) -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "John T Smith" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5fvlv$4jb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... A few other (random) thoughts A USB mouse will most likely be easier to use than the built in mouse pad... my wife (main user, when it is used) and I just do not like rubbing a thumb across a section of the computer Once he uses it it awhile, you may need to add a USB keyboard... I took our laptop with me when I was on a week long training trip recently, and "struggled" with the keyboard a bit... and this is on a wide model to accomodate the wide screen... it was usable, but I wouldn't want to HAVE to use it for very long Sadly... make sure it has (or buy and install) a good Internet security program... I use Norton which is "OK" if a bit "noisy" about patting itself on the back with notice popups... but do make sure you tell him that when the introductory period is over, he MUST pay the subscription fee to keep the product up to date so his computer doesn't get infected I work at a University so get good prices (sometimes free) on all Microsoft products... so use MS Office to match work... but I've read that Open Office does very well, so he should be happy with that If you also buy him a printer, consider how much and how often he will use it, and does he want color or just b&w For b&w I use an HP 1012 at work (current model is probably a later number) which is reasonably fast and, like all HP of that size, has the toner and drum in one unit so every time the toner runs out, you are also replacing the drum (Brother multi-function laser I have at home is separate components, and the drum is spendy) For color, I would stay AWAY from Epson... we had an Epson color inkjet, and found that if you didn't use it every day (which we didn't since we share the Brother laser) the ink jets would dry out and clog in a very short time (replaced by Epson twice, then we just threw it away) Wife now uses a Canon (can't remember the model) and even not using it every day (just when she wants to print a garden pic with color, to go in her plant book... or a snapshot of someone) she's not had problems with the ink head |
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In general? Really?? -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "Murray *ACE*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g4j8$9qs$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... No sorry. I eschew in the general direction of Flash. 8) -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g483$9hb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Murray, you don't have any idea about my Flash audio player display problem, my other thread? :-\ -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "Murray *ACE*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g40l$96v$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... I have a dot matrix printer you can HAVE! Got a free parallel port? -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g3oj$918$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Great minds think alike, I guess, John, because those are all of the considerations my brother and I have been talking about endlessly for the past few weeks, and we've come to the same conclusions as you on just about everything. Windows Vista will take care of a lot of security issues. We're going to set him up with the free AVG Anti-Virus so that he doesn't have to keep paying. And yes, if there's such thing as a simple black-and-white inkjet printer left in the world, I hope we can find it! :-) -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "John T Smith" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5fvlv$4jb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... A few other (random) thoughts A USB mouse will most likely be easier to use than the built in mouse pad... my wife (main user, when it is used) and I just do not like rubbing a thumb across a section of the computer Once he uses it it awhile, you may need to add a USB keyboard... I took our laptop with me when I was on a week long training trip recently, and "struggled" with the keyboard a bit... and this is on a wide model to accomodate the wide screen... it was usable, but I wouldn't want to HAVE to use it for very long Sadly... make sure it has (or buy and install) a good Internet security program... I use Norton which is "OK" if a bit "noisy" about patting itself on the back with notice popups... but do make sure you tell him that when the introductory period is over, he MUST pay the subscription fee to keep the product up to date so his computer doesn't get infected I work at a University so get good prices (sometimes free) on all Microsoft products... so use MS Office to match work... but I've read that Open Office does very well, so he should be happy with that If you also buy him a printer, consider how much and how often he will use it, and does he want color or just b&w For b&w I use an HP 1012 at work (current model is probably a later number) which is reasonably fast and, like all HP of that size, has the toner and drum in one unit so every time the toner runs out, you are also replacing the drum (Brother multi-function laser I have at home is separate components, and the drum is spendy) For color, I would stay AWAY from Epson... we had an Epson color inkjet, and found that if you didn't use it every day (which we didn't since we share the Brother laser) the ink jets would dry out and clog in a very short time (replaced by Epson twice, then we just threw it away) Wife now uses a Canon (can't remember the model) and even not using it every day (just when she wants to print a garden pic with color, to go in her plant book... or a snapshot of someone) she's not had problems with the ink head |
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Thanks, Darrel, but we don't want to go the Mac route. There's nobody in the family to support him on a Mac. I know it sounds odd, but that's exactly why I suggested it. If he's anywhere near an Apple store, the one-hour newbie class is all he likely needs, and from that point on, there's really nothing you'd need to support. |
guarantee you that a brand-new computer user is going to have at least a few
more questions. So unless I want to spend some time deciphering the
"intuitive interface" of Apple computers so that I can answer his questions,
I think I'll stick with PC. :-)
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The main benefit is it's a lot harder to get a virus/spyware/adware installed on a Mac. I've set up a few relatives with a fairly secure Windows set up, but even then it eventually requires me spending a saturday upgrading/fixing the thing at some point in the future. I'm definitely not trying to start a OSX vs. Windows thing here. I just personally hate supporting relatives' windows boxes as they are out of my control and when they go bad, they go REALLY bad. |
There's also the higher price of a Mac to consider.
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Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet
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Yeah. 8) -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g6jl$bvm$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... In general? Really?? -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "Murray *ACE*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g4j8$9qs$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... No sorry. I eschew in the general direction of Flash. 8) -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g483$9hb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Murray, you don't have any idea about my Flash audio player display problem, my other thread? :-\ -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "Murray *ACE*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g40l$96v$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... I have a dot matrix printer you can HAVE! Got a free parallel port? -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "P@tty Ayers ~ACE" <signup1REMOVE (AT) ayersvirtualREMOVE (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5g3oj$918$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Great minds think alike, I guess, John, because those are all of the considerations my brother and I have been talking about endlessly for the past few weeks, and we've come to the same conclusions as you on just about everything. Windows Vista will take care of a lot of security issues. We're going to set him up with the free AVG Anti-Virus so that he doesn't have to keep paying. And yes, if there's such thing as a simple black-and-white inkjet printer left in the world, I hope we can find it! :-) -- Patty Ayers | www.WebDevBiz.com Free Articles on the Business of Web Development Web Design Contract, Estimate Request Form, Estimate Worksheet -- "John T Smith" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message news:g5fvlv$4jb$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... A few other (random) thoughts A USB mouse will most likely be easier to use than the built in mouse pad... my wife (main user, when it is used) and I just do not like rubbing a thumb across a section of the computer Once he uses it it awhile, you may need to add a USB keyboard... I took our laptop with me when I was on a week long training trip recently, and "struggled" with the keyboard a bit... and this is on a wide model to accomodate the wide screen... it was usable, but I wouldn't want to HAVE to use it for very long Sadly... make sure it has (or buy and install) a good Internet security program... I use Norton which is "OK" if a bit "noisy" about patting itself on the back with notice popups... but do make sure you tell him that when the introductory period is over, he MUST pay the subscription fee to keep the product up to date so his computer doesn't get infected I work at a University so get good prices (sometimes free) on all Microsoft products... so use MS Office to match work... but I've read that Open Office does very well, so he should be happy with that If you also buy him a printer, consider how much and how often he will use it, and does he want color or just b&w For b&w I use an HP 1012 at work (current model is probably a later number) which is reasonably fast and, like all HP of that size, has the toner and drum in one unit so every time the toner runs out, you are also replacing the drum (Brother multi-function laser I have at home is separate components, and the drum is spendy) For color, I would stay AWAY from Epson... we had an Epson color inkjet, and found that if you didn't use it every day (which we didn't since we share the Brother laser) the ink jets would dry out and clog in a very short time (replaced by Epson twice, then we just threw it away) Wife now uses a Canon (can't remember the model) and even not using it every day (just when she wants to print a garden pic with color, to go in her plant book... or a snapshot of someone) she's not had problems with the ink head |
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