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r2ks2000
 
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Default Makeing ap Divs move - 08-18-2008 , 09:29 PM






Ok before i get Blasted i have read enough of the fourms to say i am a Newbie
at this CSS stuff my code is very messy but i am learning.
Ok here is the Questions i know that ap divs do not move it is the rest of my
page moves when the browser gets resized. or resoltions get chaged so how do i
get the to move with the browser resize or resoltion change. i have tried
puting them in a wrapper i have triednesting them i know the need a realative
point Please Help here is a link to what i am talking about just set the screen
resoltion to 800X640 and bingo off the Page it Goes
http://reality2000software.com/test/ap2/employment.html


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Mark Buchler
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-18-2008 , 09:36 PM






I actually might be able to help, as I experienced the same thing! I learned
that in Preferences, there's a checkbox (Preferences->AP Elements) for nesting
an AP div. This will attach the AP div to your main container.

However, I also gather, while reading posts here, that AP divs are not the
best, as they don't expand well when a surfer changes the browser's text size.
I think that's the gist of what others are saying. I'm new, too, so I cannot
speak with any authority on that, however.


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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-18-2008 , 11:27 PM



Hello,

Mark's right in saying AP Divs are not the best. They are good for some
unique situations, but building a layout isn't one of them.
Look at the site in Firefox and enlarge the text size (ctrl+ +), or in IE
View>Text Size> Larger.
You'll see that the page breaks apart as text overflows from the AP Divs.
It actually becomes illegible due to overlapping text.

This is something you want to be made aware of now, and not by the client
later.

Please read this link:
http://apptools.com/examples/pagelayout101.php

See the section entitled "The problem with layers". ("Layers" is an older DW
term for AP Divs) It shows a great graphic of exactly what your site does
when a user with a larger text size than you had in your browser views it.
It also talks about the "moving" issue.

If you're using CS3, there are a number of sample layouts included that you
can use.
"Three column fixed, header, footer" would be perfect.
File > New > Layout

AP Divs look good because you can "drag" them where you want, but you pay a
huge price for it if you use them to build a layout.
Regular divs using CSS to control positioning (margins, floats, and so on)
is the way to go.

Take care,
Tim






"r2ks2000" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Ok before i get Blasted i have read enough of the fourms to say i am a
Newbie
at this CSS stuff my code is very messy but i am learning.
Ok here is the Questions i know that ap divs do not move it is the rest of
my
page moves when the browser gets resized. or resoltions get chaged so how
do i
get the to move with the browser resize or resoltion change. i have tried
puting them in a wrapper i have triednesting them i know the need a
realative
point Please Help here is a link to what i am talking about just set the
screen
resoltion to 800X640 and bingo off the Page it Goes
http://reality2000software.com/test/ap2/employment.html




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r2ks2000
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-19-2008 , 06:21 AM



Thank you i did try the nesting of APs and that did not work i use to do all my
work with Tables and it was easy i could move and manipulate text, pics to any
area i wanted. with CSS i was trying to do the samething and it did not work so
i Placed AP divs i couple of areas to control where certain items are placed. i
guess my question is What good are AP Divs in development ?? and what is
recomend to Place items in areas of a page in CSS ??

I have read Tables are Bad and Know AP Divs do not work Hmm please Help and
thanks so much in advance.


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Dooza
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-19-2008 , 07:14 AM



r2ks2000 wrote:
Quote:
Thank you i did try the nesting of APs and that did not work i use to do all my
work with Tables and it was easy i could move and manipulate text, pics to any
area i wanted. with CSS i was trying to do the samething and it did not work so
i Placed AP divs i couple of areas to control where certain items are placed. i
guess my question is What good are AP Divs in development ?? and what is
recomend to Place items in areas of a page in CSS ??

I have read Tables are Bad and Know AP Divs do not work Hmm please Help and
thanks so much in advance.
You need to stop trying to design pages with a drag and drop mentality,
you need to learn the medium before trying to use Dreamweaver, once you
have a basic understanding of HTML and CSS you will see how good
Dreamweaver is at helping you make a decent layout.

Steve


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r2ks2000
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-19-2008 , 08:35 AM



Steve, I agree and disagree with you Both Functions of any RAD web development
are Good as long as they are used togeather. if i wanted to just Code
everything i would have found a program that would allow me to do just That not
Spend 400.00 for an Advanced Not pad. I do understand that Codeing all things
is the best Practice there are times that i want Convince of the drag and Drop
mentality. i do have a basic understanding of html and css ( Basic and I am
learning ) I have also read out on these post many people bashing users for
haveing a drag and drop Mentality.

Please EVERYONE IF YOU WANT TO SHARE POSTIVE HELP THAN DO SO IF NOT PLEASE DO
NOT REPLY AND WASTE ALL OF OUR TIME I WANT TO LEARN. not read how everyone Code
versus Drag and Drop. Lots of Professional developers use Drag and Drop as well
as Code
or split view

Thank you everyone




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r2ks2000
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-19-2008 , 08:44 AM



I did use CSS for the Page layouts and was trying to Place some elemants with
in the css maincontent area useing ap divs for Conveince that is where the
problem of resize came into play. i have read the the can be placed in wrappers
and i have tried that and it did not work.

I have read that useing Ap Divs for your Whole layout is Bad and i would
Agree. because the unpredictable nature of them.



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Dooza
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-19-2008 , 09:28 AM



r2ks2000 wrote:
Quote:
Steve, I agree and disagree with you Both Functions of any RAD web development
are Good as long as they are used togeather. if i wanted to just Code
everything i would have found a program that would allow me to do just That not
Spend 400.00 for an Advanced Not pad. I do understand that Codeing all things
is the best Practice there are times that i want Convince of the drag and Drop
mentality. i do have a basic understanding of html and css ( Basic and I am
learning ) I have also read out on these post many people bashing users for
haveing a drag and drop Mentality.
I am not saying do everything in code, not at all, what I am saying is
in order for you to really get the most from Dreamweaver, understanding
what it is doing to the code will help you a lot.

Dreamweaver isn't a WYSIWYG program, no matter what the sales man may
say, its a tool to aid development that increases productivity. But you
have to understand what and why its doing these things to get the most
from it.

Its not even to do with best practice, its to help you learn how to use
the program. If you want a WYSIWYG program then you have made the wrong
purchase.

Steve


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r2ks2000
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-19-2008 , 11:43 AM



Point Very well taken So at this point How would you get certian elemants to anchor with in the content area of a webpage.

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Dooza
 
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Default Re: Makeing ap Divs move - 08-19-2008 , 11:45 AM



r2ks2000 wrote:
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Point Very well taken So at this point How would you get certian elemants to anchor with in the content area of a webpage.
I am not sure what you mean, can you provide a URL and a bit more detail
about what you want to add?

Steve


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