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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-06-2005 , 02:06 PM






This won't do it. Why waste the effort?

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"Hywel Harris" <firstname.lastname (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote

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"Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message
news:u0lbp1996gg0tr2im8e27j7473i4n5u2gc (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...

But in Firefox, if you click Tools->Page Info, then click the Media tab,
you'll see a list of all images. Click the image names and the image is
shown in the bottom half of the dialog box. Find the one you want and
click Save As. It's so simple to get around schemes like this that it
really isn't worth the effort. Yes, it will stop the newbie who knows
next to nothing from saving an image and using it on their desktop, but
the guy who wants to steal an image and sell 10,000 copies of it won't
even be slowed down.


Yes I know Gary, Thats what I was pointing out. The portfolio pages of my
site all open in cromeless windows so Page Info isnt immediately
available. My aim is to slow people down, make it a tad more difficult,
but anyone with a modicum of knowledge WILL get around it if they want to.
I decided it wasn't worth the effort of watermarking etc but this was easy
to do and since its all in a template very easy to repeat.

Best regards

Hywel Harris




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Michael Fesser
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-06-2005 , 02:06 PM






..oO(Hywel Harris)

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Yes I know Gary, Thats what I was pointing out.
It's even easier in Opera: shift-g and the "copyright layer" is gone.

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The portfolio pages of my
site all open in cromeless windows
Not in my Opera.

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My aim is to slow people down
It won't slow down people with a clue.

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, make it a tad more difficult, but anyone with
a modicum of knowledge WILL get around it if they want to.
Exactly. And that's why it's useless.

Micha


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Gary White
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-06-2005 , 02:10 PM



On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:45:49 -0000, "Hywel Harris"
<firstname.lastname (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

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Yes I know Gary, Thats what I was pointing out. The portfolio pages of my
site all open in cromeless windows so Page Info isnt immediately available.
It didn't for me. Even if a window doesn't have the menu and toolbar,
right click anywhere on the page and I can choose Page Info from the
context menu.


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My aim is to slow people down, make it a tad more difficult, but anyone with
a modicum of knowledge WILL get around it if they want to. I decided it
wasn't worth the effort of watermarking etc but this was easy to do and
since its all in a template very easy to repeat.
The problem with that is that the clueless aren't the ones you really
get concerned about. The occasional causal user who uses an image for
personal reasons isn't going to be much of a problem. It's the guy who
takes your image and uses it for some commercial purpose. And I
guarantee you that person knows how to get it.

Gary


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Hywel Harris
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-06-2005 , 06:45 PM



When you've all done beating me about the head!.....

The page will open in a chromeless window when opened from within the site.
( I know......... but most will get there that way.)

Page info will only get them one main image at time so it has slowed them
down a tad. That is the aim, I don't want anyone to be able to lift all the
images without a bit of effort.

And you have got to accept that the majority of users just don't have your
level of knowledge. I would accept that anyone using Opera has changed from
IE for a reason and they are the sort of person who probably has the wit to
try a few tricks and I won't be able to prevent them. The majority, of my
acquaintance anyway, won't know all these tricks. Besides the copyright
notice is just to remind the law abiding that they shouldn't nick stuff. The
unscrupulous won't care and I can't prevent them. Its not necessarily
useless to make it known that you care enough about copyright issues to make
the effort to bring it to their attention.

BTW did I mention I'm not going to lose any sleep over this!

Best regards

Hywel Harris




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Gary White
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-06-2005 , 07:10 PM



On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 23:45:37 -0000, "Hywel Harris"
<firstname.lastname (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

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When you've all done beating me about the head!.....

NO FAIR! You're wearing a helmet! ;-)

If it makes you feel better, go ahead and do it. I would just not
recommend you suggest it to others.

Gary


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Joe Makowiec
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-07-2005 , 06:21 PM



On 07 Dec 2005 in macromedia.dreamweaver, SaraBuchholz wrote:

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I think we would be happy just disabling the right click and letting
the average user know the images are copyrighted.
I tried to insert the scripting listed on
http://www.continue.to/hope in the
head as indicated and it does not work.
Any suggestions?
The same one you've been getting right along - don't do it.

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Michael Fesser
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-07-2005 , 06:50 PM



..oO(SaraBuchholz)

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I think we would be happy just disabling the right click
Only amateurs will be happy with this. The more experienced webauthor
knows, that the context menu is usable for much more than just saving
images to disk (where they already are, BTW) and that trying to block
right clicks will decrease a site's usability. If it will work at all.

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I tried to insert the scripting listed on http://www.continue.to/hope
You didn't understand.

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Any suggestions?
Don't be a fool and drop it.

Micha


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Michael Fesser
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-08-2005 , 06:14 AM



..oO(Malcolm N.....)

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I'm not suggesting he do it - but I have seen images put in a new
blank window with no menu
Not all browsers allow this. I _always_ get a complete and resizable
browser window with all necessary GUI controls, even if the site's
author suggested something different (and that's just it: a suggestion,
my browser is free to ignore it for usability reasons).

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- so you can't obviously save the file,
Sure you can: context menu, hotkeys, drag & drop ...

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especially a flash image.
You can save _all_ and everything. And you don't even need a browser if
you have something like 'wget' available.

Micha


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Michael Fesser
 
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Default Re: Lock Images - 12-08-2005 , 01:34 PM



..oO(Malcolm N.....)

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How do you get Firefox to always open with GUI controls please.
I looked at all the options / tried Firefox help - no joy.
Open FF, type 'about:config' in the address bar (without quotes). In the
"Filter" input field type (or paste) 'dom.disable'.

All the lines starting with "dom.disable_window_open_feature" describe
features, which can be disabled by a popup. Setting their values to
"true" overrides that. For example

dom.disable_window_open_feature.location = true

will always show the address bar. Play around a bit with these settings.

Micha


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