Loading 2 pages into two frames??

I am trying to load two html docs into two different frames. I basically want
to have a user click on a button in the left frame and then have a different
menu appear in that left frame and also have a page load in the main frame. All
I seem to be able to do is load to one frame at a time. Any
suggestions??:confused;

Yes. Dump the frames.

You can do what you want, but consider this. You click a link and the right
frame loads the new page then the left page loads the new navigation. Now,
I decide to click the browser's back button. Oops -the left navigation page
changes back, and you have just won yourself a fast track ticket to frameset
hell.

Wanna go there?

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"MAtt82" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

I am trying to load two html docs into two different frames. I basically
want
to have a user click on a button in the left frame and then have a
different
menu appear in that left frame and also have a page load in the main
frame. All
I seem to be able to do is load to one frame at a time. Any
suggestions??:confused;

Murray *TMM* wrote:

Yes. Dump the frames.

You can do what you want, but consider this. You click a link and the right
frame loads the new page then the left page loads the new navigation. Now,
I decide to click the browser's back button. Oops -the left navigation page
changes back, and you have just won yourself a fast track ticket to frameset
hell.

Wanna go there?

use nested framesets, no problems with backbuttons.

make a few framesets that contain the two frames you lik to cange with
one click

make your navigation link to these framesets and you are up and running.

Joost Kolkman

Here we go again.

Joost, it's OK for you to do that because you understand frames and their
associated problems. Consider the experience level of those who ask such
questions. Now, since you are the only one who visits here (irregularly)
with such advice, and since following such advice is bound to raise issues
for the poster, who will support them? Get pragmatic, dude. Your advice
does them no favors.

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"Joost Kolkman" <info (AT) joostjoostkolkman (DOT) nl> wrote

Murray *TMM* wrote:
Yes. Dump the frames.

You can do what you want, but consider this. You click a link and the
right frame loads the new page then the left page loads the new
navigation. Now, I decide to click the browser's back button. Oops -the
left navigation page changes back, and you have just won yourself a fast
track ticket to frameset hell.

Wanna go there?


use nested framesets, no problems with backbuttons.

make a few framesets that contain the two frames you lik to cange with one
click

make your navigation link to these framesets and you are up and running.

Joost Kolkman

Everytime I read an advice to use javascript to change two frames at one
click I see the answer that the back button won't work propperly.
Which is true.

See no problem in giving a beter answer to the problem when asked.

Let them read the rants of frames, that is a good thing.
Let them decide how important the problems are for their website.

Let them read the possible solutions and see if they are capable of
understanding.

But don't say frames are wrong by giving the second best answer and than
saying this answer is not good enough...

Every designer should master his tools step by step; frames are just one
of them.

Joost Kolkman



(I am not the only on here, but with all the frame-bashing around not
everyone dares to speak)





Murray *TMM* wrote:

Here we go again.

Joost, it's OK for you to do that because you understand frames and their
associated problems. Consider the experience level of those who ask such
questions. Now, since you are the only one who visits here (irregularly)
with such advice, and since following such advice is bound to raise issues
for the poster, who will support them? Get pragmatic, dude. Your advice
does them no favors.

See no problem in giving a beter answer to the problem when asked.

It's your opinion that it's better, and you are right to express it. It's
my opinion that it's not better, however. It's only another option. Yet
it's one that is likely to mislead the original poster into committing to a
path he/she doesn't fully understand. By following your suggestion, they
may well arrive at a point where they decide to continue NOT because it's a
better path, but because they have sunk so much time into the process that
they cannot afford to re-trench. It would be the functional equivalent of
recommending that someone use the pop-up menu option.

Please use frames until you are blue in the face. Please advocate their use
on this forum, if you wish. Please contribute your understanding of them to
posts where people are struggling with frame-specific problems. But please
don't promote them as 'the best solution' because they usually are not.

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"Joost Kolkman" <info (AT) joostjoostkolkman (DOT) nl> wrote

Everytime I read an advice to use javascript to change two frames at one
click I see the answer that the back button won't work propperly.
Which is true.

See no problem in giving a beter answer to the problem when asked.

Let them read the rants of frames, that is a good thing.
Let them decide how important the problems are for their website.

Let them read the possible solutions and see if they are capable of
understanding.

But don't say frames are wrong by giving the second best answer and than
saying this answer is not good enough...

Every designer should master his tools step by step; frames are just one
of them.

Joost Kolkman



(I am not the only on here, but with all the frame-bashing around not
everyone dares to speak)





Murray *TMM* wrote:

Here we go again.

Joost, it's OK for you to do that because you understand frames and their
associated problems. Consider the experience level of those who ask such
questions. Now, since you are the only one who visits here (irregularly)
with such advice, and since following such advice is bound to raise
issues for the poster, who will support them? Get pragmatic, dude. Your
advice does them no favors.

I learned my thing, I am not promoting them as best solution, but
defending them when attacked. (Especially when attacked for the wrong
reasons. No more, no less.)

Frames are just another tool in the toolbox. And not always the best
tool and not without problems.

Joost Kolkman



Murray *TMM* wrote:

See no problem in giving a beter answer to the problem when asked.


It's your opinion that it's better, and you are right to express it. It's
my opinion that it's not better, however. It's only another option. Yet
it's one that is likely to mislead the original poster into committing to a
path he/she doesn't fully understand. By following your suggestion, they
may well arrive at a point where they decide to continue NOT because it's a
better path, but because they have sunk so much time into the process that
they cannot afford to re-trench. It would be the functional equivalent of
recommending that someone use the pop-up menu option.

Please use frames until you are blue in the face. Please advocate their use
on this forum, if you wish. Please contribute your understanding of them to
posts where people are struggling with frame-specific problems. But please
don't promote them as 'the best solution' because they usually are not.