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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 01:26 AM






THANK YOU EVERYONE....i've been studying books, but it's amazing how advice
from real people can put a completely different perspective.

point taken from everyone.....I WILL NOT CONVERT!

but i'm still confused ....between LAYERS, TABLES, and CSS. what to
use...hmmm....maybe a combo of all?

MY POINT IS = my original concern with starting this thread was b/c i wanted
my design to be centered no matter what the resolution the viewer was seeing it
at. SO WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS?

keep in mind....i will be doing the bulk of aesthetics in PHOTOSHOP......then
implementing FLASH for buttons and a few other things......then using
DREAMWEAVER to put it all together.

can someone lay this to rest?

thanks!


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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 01:32 AM






You'll probably get a lot of varying opinions on this around here, but the
truth is, each of those methods has its plusses and minuses. It depends
largely on what your site needs to be. Personally, I use a mix of all of
them. Having been "raised" on tables, I'm comfortable with them as my main
starting point, then use layers if needed and nowadays a lot of CSS, as much
because it lets me vary things site-wide without changing page after page
after page after........

My motto is: whatever works best for you and the site.

MD


bpark7373 wrote:
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THANK YOU EVERYONE....i've been studying books, but it's amazing how
advice from real people can put a completely different perspective.

point taken from everyone.....I WILL NOT CONVERT!

but i'm still confused ....between LAYERS, TABLES, and CSS. what to
use...hmmm....maybe a combo of all?

MY POINT IS = my original concern with starting this thread was b/c
i wanted my design to be centered no matter what the resolution the
viewer was seeing it at. SO WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS?

keep in mind....i will be doing the bulk of aesthetics in
PHOTOSHOP......then implementing FLASH for buttons and a few other
things......then using DREAMWEAVER to put it all together.

can someone lay this to rest?

thanks!



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:. Nadia .:
 
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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 01:58 AM



"Mad Dog" <md (AT) mdp (DOT) com> wrote

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You'll probably get a lot of varying opinions on this around here, but the
truth is, each of those methods has its plusses and minuses. It depends
largely on what your site needs to be. Personally, I use a mix of all of
them. Having been "raised" on tables, I'm comfortable with them as my main
starting point, then use layers if needed and nowadays a lot of CSS, as
much
because it lets me vary things site-wide without changing page after page
after page after........
Excellent advice MD !

Quote:
My motto is: whatever works best for you and the site.
I'm a tables lady from way back also, and totally agree with your motto :-D

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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 01:59 AM



I'm not surprised. You always struck me as a tables lady..........(:})

:. Nadia .: wrote:
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I'm a tables lady from way back also, and totally agree with your
motto :-D



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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 02:12 AM



umm ok, is that good or bad - now you've got me worried :-D

Nadia


"Mad Dog" <md (AT) mdp (DOT) com> wrote

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I'm not surprised. You always struck me as a tables lady..........(:})

:. Nadia .: wrote:
I'm a tables lady from way back also, and totally agree with your
motto :-D





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Mad Dog
 
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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 02:23 AM



Sorry, I'm sworn to secrecy.......


:. Nadia .: wrote:
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umm ok, is that good or bad - now you've got me worried :-D

Nadia


"Mad Dog" <md (AT) mdp (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I'm not surprised. You always struck me as a tables
lady..........(:})

:. Nadia .: wrote:
I'm a tables lady from way back also, and totally agree with your
motto :-D



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:. Nadia .:
 
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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 02:28 AM



you rat!...... would a bribe work?


"Mad Dog" <md (AT) mdp (DOT) com> wrote

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Sorry, I'm sworn to secrecy.......


:. Nadia .: wrote:
umm ok, is that good or bad - now you've got me worried :-D

Nadia


"Mad Dog" <md (AT) mdp (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:ceco4s$khq$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
I'm not surprised. You always struck me as a tables
lady..........(:})

:. Nadia .: wrote:
I'm a tables lady from way back also, and totally agree with your
motto :-D





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ShowtelPromotions
 
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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 03:06 AM



Yum, a table lady...that sounds good nadia....lol

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.::Dr. J::.
 
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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 04:40 AM



Interesting thread, lots of good advice here.

Actually after I threw hand coding out the door (b/c I could never figure out
tabels, ugh.) it was the Dreamweaver layers that saved me. I was able,
painstakingly in most cases, to make the convert work, but only if the layers
didn't overlap.
- which brings me to my first question: if I'm desgining in layers (in the
blue corner -- with CSS my back-up) need I worry about overlapping layers?
What does it mean if I have overlapping layers?
- second question: which is SEO friendlier, layers or tables?

Thanks for your insight everyone


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:. Nadia .:
 
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Default Re: layers to tables.....good idea?? - 07-30-2004 , 04:54 AM



Dr J,

This may be an interesting read for you
http://www.thepattysite.com/layer_laws.cfm

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Nadia
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http://www.DreamweaverResources.com
Dropdown Menu Designs | CSS Layouts
Ecommerce - YVStore | SEO Articles
Table Tutorials | Background image Tutorials
------------------------------------------------




".:r. J::." <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Interesting thread, lots of good advice here.

Actually after I threw hand coding out the door (b/c I could never figure
out
tabels, ugh.) it was the Dreamweaver layers that saved me. I was able,
painstakingly in most cases, to make the convert work, but only if the
layers
didn't overlap.
- which brings me to my first question: if I'm desgining in layers (in
the
blue corner -- with CSS my back-up) need I worry about overlapping layers?
What does it mean if I have overlapping layers?
- second question: which is SEO friendlier, layers or tables?

Thanks for your insight everyone




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