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Re: IE6 on PC shows resize handles for pop windows when shouldn't. -
09-14-2004
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Here. I will do one for you. THE <NOSCRIPT> TAG =================== This HTML4 tag is only used when the rendering browser has javascript disabled, or does not support javascript, in which case the code between noscript> and </noscript> will be rendered on the page. It is supported by all modern, and even some quite elderly browsers. A common use for it would be to do something like this - noscript><blink>Please turn javascript ON</blink></noscript -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci83lf$bt7$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Tks for all your help Gary, Just one final ?, promise:-): Do you know of any tutorials I can go to to learn about the <noscript tag? cheers, Lossed "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:15idk0l1uj3f9pga49uvb94vf7t5rd837q (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: How so Gary? Unreliable b/c using JS? I was specifically talking about restricting the ability of the user to re-size the window, but yes, now that you mention it, relying on JavaScript is leaving it open to the possibility of failure. I was also wondering with all the pop-up blockers around, if any will block a pop-up even if it's onclick and from the originating website? Most of the mainstream pop-up blockers don't block windows opened from an onClick event. However, I understand that there ARE some less well known blockers that block them all. what's a good way to display snippets of related info when someone clicks a text link on a body of text that doesn't rely on javascript and doesn't take them, visually at least, completely off the originating page? I was thinking show/hide layers or PVII's swap class bu they also rely on JS. There are ways of dealing with non-js browsers for opening windows. See http://apptools/com/rants/popups.php. If you're using a show/hide layer, either default the layer to visible and hide it onLoad, or include a noscript> alternative. Gary |
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tks Murray. I tried putting it in the head and also in other parts of the body (I know what UR thinking but don't go there: ). Just one thing- It worked no matter where I put it, so I might just leave it in the head - will that be an acceptable place for it? cheers, Lossed. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci8423$c7e$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Here. I will do one for you. THE <NOSCRIPT> TAG =================== This HTML4 tag is only used when the rendering browser has javascript disabled, or does not support javascript, in which case the code between noscript> and </noscript> will be rendered on the page. It is supported by all modern, and even some quite elderly browsers. A common use for it would be to do something like this - noscript><blink>Please turn javascript ON</blink></noscript -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci83lf$bt7$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Tks for all your help Gary, Just one final ?, promise:-): Do you know of any tutorials I can go to to learn about the <noscript tag? cheers, Lossed "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:15idk0l1uj3f9pga49uvb94vf7t5rd837q (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: How so Gary? Unreliable b/c using JS? I was specifically talking about restricting the ability of the user to re-size the window, but yes, now that you mention it, relying on JavaScript is leaving it open to the possibility of failure. I was also wondering with all the pop-up blockers around, if any will block a pop-up even if it's onclick and from the originating website? Most of the mainstream pop-up blockers don't block windows opened from an onClick event. However, I understand that there ARE some less well known blockers that block them all. what's a good way to display snippets of related info when someone clicks a text link on a body of text that doesn't rely on javascript and doesn't take them, visually at least, completely off the originating page? I was thinking show/hide layers or PVII's swap class bu they also rely on JS. There are ways of dealing with non-js browsers for opening windows. See http://apptools/com/rants/popups.php. If you're using a show/hide layer, either default the layer to visible and hide it onLoad, or include a noscript> alternative. Gary |
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tks Murray. I tried putting it in the head and also in other parts of the body (I know what UR thinking but don't go there: ). Just one thing- It worked no matter where I put it, so I might just leave it in the head - will that be an acceptable place for it? cheers, Lossed. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci8423$c7e$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Here. I will do one for you. THE <NOSCRIPT> TAG =================== This HTML4 tag is only used when the rendering browser has javascript disabled, or does not support javascript, in which case the code between noscript> and </noscript> will be rendered on the page. It is supported by all modern, and even some quite elderly browsers. A common use for it would be to do something like this - noscript><blink>Please turn javascript ON</blink></noscript -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci83lf$bt7$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Tks for all your help Gary, Just one final ?, promise:-): Do you know of any tutorials I can go to to learn about the <noscript tag? cheers, Lossed "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:15idk0l1uj3f9pga49uvb94vf7t5rd837q (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: How so Gary? Unreliable b/c using JS? I was specifically talking about restricting the ability of the user to re-size the window, but yes, now that you mention it, relying on JavaScript is leaving it open to the possibility of failure. I was also wondering with all the pop-up blockers around, if any will block a pop-up even if it's onclick and from the originating website? Most of the mainstream pop-up blockers don't block windows opened from an onClick event. However, I understand that there ARE some less well known blockers that block them all. what's a good way to display snippets of related info when someone clicks a text link on a body of text that doesn't rely on javascript and doesn't take them, visually at least, completely off the originating page? I was thinking show/hide layers or PVII's swap class bu they also rely on JS. There are ways of dealing with non-js browsers for opening windows. See http://apptools/com/rants/popups.php. If you're using a show/hide layer, either default the layer to visible and hide it onLoad, or include a noscript> alternative. Gary |
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No. Put it in the body. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci85fd$d9q$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... tks Murray. I tried putting it in the head and also in other parts of the body (I know what UR thinking but don't go there: ). Just one thing- It worked no matter where I put it, so I might just leave it in the head - will that be an acceptable place for it? cheers, Lossed. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci8423$c7e$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Here. I will do one for you. THE <NOSCRIPT> TAG =================== This HTML4 tag is only used when the rendering browser has javascript disabled, or does not support javascript, in which case the code between noscript> and </noscript> will be rendered on the page. It is supported by all modern, and even some quite elderly browsers. A common use for it would be to do something like this - noscript><blink>Please turn javascript ON</blink></noscript -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci83lf$bt7$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Tks for all your help Gary, Just one final ?, promise:-): Do you know of any tutorials I can go to to learn about the <noscript tag? cheers, Lossed "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:15idk0l1uj3f9pga49uvb94vf7t5rd837q (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: How so Gary? Unreliable b/c using JS? I was specifically talking about restricting the ability of the user to re-size the window, but yes, now that you mention it, relying on JavaScript is leaving it open to the possibility of failure. I was also wondering with all the pop-up blockers around, if any will block a pop-up even if it's onclick and from the originating website? Most of the mainstream pop-up blockers don't block windows opened from an onClick event. However, I understand that there ARE some less well known blockers that block them all. what's a good way to display snippets of related info when someone clicks a text link on a body of text that doesn't rely on javascript and doesn't take them, visually at least, completely off the originating page? I was thinking show/hide layers or PVII's swap class bu they also rely on JS. There are ways of dealing with non-js browsers for opening windows. See http://apptools/com/rants/popups.php. If you're using a show/hide layer, either default the layer to visible and hide it onLoad, or include a noscript> alternative. Gary |
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Noted, tks very much. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci863g$dp6$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... No. Put it in the body. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci85fd$d9q$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... tks Murray. I tried putting it in the head and also in other parts of the body (I know what UR thinking but don't go there: ). Just one thing- It worked no matter where I put it, so I might just leave it in the head - will that be an acceptable place for it? cheers, Lossed. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci8423$c7e$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Here. I will do one for you. THE <NOSCRIPT> TAG =================== This HTML4 tag is only used when the rendering browser has javascript disabled, or does not support javascript, in which case the code between <noscript> and </noscript> will be rendered on the page. It is supported by all modern, and even some quite elderly browsers. A common use for it would be to do something like this - noscript><blink>Please turn javascript ON</blink></noscript -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci83lf$bt7$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Tks for all your help Gary, Just one final ?, promise:-): Do you know of any tutorials I can go to to learn about the <noscript tag? cheers, Lossed "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:15idk0l1uj3f9pga49uvb94vf7t5rd837q (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: How so Gary? Unreliable b/c using JS? I was specifically talking about restricting the ability of the user to re-size the window, but yes, now that you mention it, relying on JavaScript is leaving it open to the possibility of failure. I was also wondering with all the pop-up blockers around, if any will block a pop-up even if it's onclick and from the originating website? Most of the mainstream pop-up blockers don't block windows opened from an onClick event. However, I understand that there ARE some less well known blockers that block them all. what's a good way to display snippets of related info when someone clicks a text link on a body of text that doesn't rely on javascript and doesn't take them, visually at least, completely off the originating page? I was thinking show/hide layers or PVII's swap class bu they also rely on JS. There are ways of dealing with non-js browsers for opening windows. See http://apptools/com/rants/popups.php. If you're using a show/hide layer, either default the layer to visible and hide it onLoad, or include a noscript> alternative. Gary |
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Any reasons why I should not do a find and replace - finding <body> and replacing with <body><noscript>blah blah</noscript>? then I would just need to pick off the remaining pages that have any onloads in the body tag and copy and paste. Right? "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci86ef$e2f$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Noted, tks very much. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci863g$dp6$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... No. Put it in the body. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci85fd$d9q$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... tks Murray. I tried putting it in the head and also in other parts of the body (I know what UR thinking but don't go there: ). Just one thing- It worked no matter where I put it, so I might just leave it in the head - will that be an acceptable place for it? cheers, Lossed. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci8423$c7e$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Here. I will do one for you. THE <NOSCRIPT> TAG =================== This HTML4 tag is only used when the rendering browser has javascript disabled, or does not support javascript, in which case the code between <noscript> and </noscript> will be rendered on the page. It is supported by all modern, and even some quite elderly browsers. A common use for it would be to do something like this - noscript><blink>Please turn javascript ON</blink></noscript -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci83lf$bt7$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Tks for all your help Gary, Just one final ?, promise:-): Do you know of any tutorials I can go to to learn about the noscript> tag? cheers, Lossed "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:15idk0l1uj3f9pga49uvb94vf7t5rd837q (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: How so Gary? Unreliable b/c using JS? I was specifically talking about restricting the ability of the user to re-size the window, but yes, now that you mention it, relying on JavaScript is leaving it open to the possibility of failure. I was also wondering with all the pop-up blockers around, if any will block a pop-up even if it's onclick and from the originating website? Most of the mainstream pop-up blockers don't block windows opened from an onClick event. However, I understand that there ARE some less well known blockers that block them all. what's a good way to display snippets of related info when someone clicks a text link on a body of text that doesn't rely on javascript and doesn't take them, visually at least, completely off the originating page? I was thinking show/hide layers or PVII's swap class bu they also rely on JS. There are ways of dealing with non-js browsers for opening windows. See http://apptools/com/rants/popups.php. If you're using a show/hide layer, either default the layer to visible and hide it onLoad, or include a noscript> alternative. Gary |
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Why not find </body> and replace with <noscript>Blah</noscript></body>? You could even put the "Blah" into a positoned element if you wanted.... -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci86k4$e62$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Any reasons why I should not do a find and replace - finding <body> and replacing with <body><noscript>blah blah</noscript>? then I would just need to pick off the remaining pages that have any onloads in the body tag and copy and paste. Right? "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci86ef$e2f$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Noted, tks very much. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci863g$dp6$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... No. Put it in the body. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci85fd$d9q$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... tks Murray. I tried putting it in the head and also in other parts of the body (I know what UR thinking but don't go there: ). Just one thing- It worked no matter where I put it, so I might just leave it in the head - will that be an acceptable place for it? cheers, Lossed. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci8423$c7e$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Here. I will do one for you. THE <NOSCRIPT> TAG =================== This HTML4 tag is only used when the rendering browser has javascript disabled, or does not support javascript, in which case the code between <noscript> and </noscript> will be rendered on the page. It is supported by all modern, and even some quite elderly browsers. A common use for it would be to do something like this - noscript><blink>Please turn javascript ON</blink></noscript -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Lossed" <blankemail (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ci83lf$bt7$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Tks for all your help Gary, Just one final ?, promise:-): Do you know of any tutorials I can go to to learn about the noscript> tag? cheers, Lossed "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:15idk0l1uj3f9pga49uvb94vf7t5rd837q (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: How so Gary? Unreliable b/c using JS? I was specifically talking about restricting the ability of the user to re-size the window, but yes, now that you mention it, relying on JavaScript is leaving it open to the possibility of failure. I was also wondering with all the pop-up blockers around, if any will block a pop-up even if it's onclick and from the originating website? Most of the mainstream pop-up blockers don't block windows opened from an onClick event. However, I understand that there ARE some less well known blockers that block them all. what's a good way to display snippets of related info when someone clicks a text link on a body of text that doesn't rely on javascript and doesn't take them, visually at least, completely off the originating page? I was thinking show/hide layers or PVII's swap class bu they also rely on JS. There are ways of dealing with non-js browsers for opening windows. See http://apptools/com/rants/popups.php. If you're using a show/hide layer, either default the layer to visible and hide it onLoad, or include a noscript> alternative. Gary |
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Actually, I tried styling the noscript tag with CSS but it would only work it if was NOT in the head, but after the body tag. Incidentally, when in the head, it seemed to inherit whatever I had set for the body tag styling, or that could have been the html styling as i set both of them to the same styles in my CSS. |
all sorts of evil repercussions. The <noscript> is rendered by the
browser. Putting it in the <head> of the document would be like putting
a heading, or a paragraph in the <head>. When the browser sees it, it
implies that the <head> content is finished and that you have omitted
the <body> tag. See where that could lead?
Gary
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Lossed wrote: Actually, I tried styling the noscript tag with CSS but it would only work it if was NOT in the head, but after the body tag. Incidentally, when in the head, it seemed to inherit whatever I had set for the body tag styling, or that could have been the html styling as i set both of them to the same styles in my CSS. Putting the <noscript> content in the <head> of the document could have all sorts of evil repercussions. The <noscript> is rendered by the browser. Putting it in the <head> of the document would be like putting a heading, or a paragraph in the <head>. When the browser sees it, it implies that the <head> content is finished and that you have omitted the <body> tag. See where that could lead? Gary |
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Straight down the dumper.... -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote in message news:fd9gk0pd22a357148eme5vpvv8vrd0ruqq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Lossed wrote: Actually, I tried styling the noscript tag with CSS but it would only work it if was NOT in the head, but after the body tag. Incidentally, when in the head, it seemed to inherit whatever I had set for the body tag styling, or that could have been the html styling as i set both of them to the same styles in my CSS. Putting the <noscript> content in the <head> of the document could have all sorts of evil repercussions. The <noscript> is rendered by the browser. Putting it in the <head> of the document would be like putting a heading, or a paragraph in the <head>. When the browser sees it, it implies that the <head> content is finished and that you have omitted the <body> tag. See where that could lead? Gary |
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