HELP ME!!! Frames :(

Hi! I have created a site that has a left frame and a top frame. I am using
the middle as the different pages so that when you scroll down the frames stay
in place. I put my links on the left frames and when I preview in browser...I
click on the link and the page comes up in the frame instead of the center,
where I want it to. How can I make the link in the left frame connect to the
blank area....
Thank you in adv.
Lisa

The reason for using or not using frames should be based on a) your site's
needs, and b) your willingness to accept the potential problems that frames
can create for you as developer and maintainer of the site and for your
visitors as casual users of the site.

I am down on frames because I believe that they create many more problems
than they solve.
Judging from the posts here, and the kinds of problems that are described,
the kind of person most likely to elect to use frames is also the kind of
person most likely ill-prepared fo solve the ensuing problems when they
arise. If you feel a) that you understand the problems and b) that you are
prepared to handle them when they occur, and c) that you have a need to use
frames, then by all means use them.

As far as I know, the most comprehensive discussions of frames and their
potential problems can be found on these two links -

http://apptools.com/rants/framesevil.php
http://www.tjkdesign.com/resources/frames/

To fix your problem you need to use the Target field of the Property
inspector when you create your links so that they target the proper frame.

Of course the best solution is to avoid the use of frames.

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"lmp736" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Hi! I have created a site that has a left frame and a top frame. I am
using
the middle as the different pages so that when you scroll down the frames
stay
in place. I put my links on the left frames and when I preview in
browser...I
click on the link and the page comes up in the frame instead of the
center,
where I want it to. How can I make the link in the left frame connect to
the
blank area....
Thank you in adv.
Lisa

I tried to look up those sites but they are not coming up. I am new at
designing web sites, as I am sure you can tell. I need to create a page to
look like www.heinesolutions.com
The blue top and left sides are what I need... I don't think that they are
frames. How would I create this. If you can help me please write back!!!!
thank you for your time ---LISA

Both of the sites I linked load for me.

The page you linked is not a frameset. It is a series of tables, as you can
see by looking at the source of the page.

The top blue area is a table with two columns. The handshake image is in
one, and the text image is in the other (I am simplifying a little).

The rest of the page is an overly complex series of nested tables, providing
the effect of two columns - the one on the left for the menu and the one on
the right for the content.

It should not be hard to do this page without the horror of frames....

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"lmp736" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

I tried to look up those sites but they are not coming up. I am new at
designing web sites, as I am sure you can tell. I need to create a page
to
look like www.heinesolutions.com
The blue top and left sides are what I need... I don't think that they
are
frames. How would I create this. If you can help me please write
back!!!!
thank you for your time ---LISA

thank you for you quick responses to my questions...they are very helpful!!! I
have a couple more questions...I created the boxes but they do not preview in
my browser? Is that unusual? I was also curious how to make just the boxes
blue? When I go to Modify - page properties - it changes the whole page
background to blue? THANKS!!!!

how do i get the color in the background of the table...the site does not explain that part to you? thank you!

I have pretty much completed my first page. Thank you for all your help. But when I go to preview the page in the browser it does not show up --- do you have any idea why? thank you!!!

lmp736 typed:

how do i get the color in the background of the table...the site does
not explain that part to you? thank you!

Do you mean the colour of the header table?
More work in css for. Did you use the following for your background image
on the side? If so you can add the headertbl class to the code.


<style type="text/css">
<!--
body {
padding: 0;
margin: -10px 0 0 -10px;
/*/*/margin: 0 0 0 0; /* */
background: url(pics/bckgroundhor.jpg); /* - change to your own
image */
background-repeat: repeat-y;
background-color: white;
}

..headertbl {padding: 0;background-color: #whatevercoloryouwant;}
-->

Then in your code, give the the header table the class of headertbl

so you have something like this.
<table class="headertbl'>

I'm going blind here as I am not sure how far you have come with your page.
I am only assuming certain things here with the advice I have given above
and I am not sure how comfortable you are working with styles and
stylesheets.

For a start to basic css have a look at www.mako4css.com

May be an idea if you can upload the page you are working on so we can see
it to give more advice ......


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Nope not frames,

You can have a background image repeat -y for the left blue navbar section
or declare a background colour for the navbar cell. A few ways to do this
actually.

Fairly simple to do. Have one header table right at the top, that holds the
logo and background, have it flexible so that it extends to the full width
of the page. .Then beneath this, have another table with 2 cells. Inside
the left cell, nest another table to hold your navigation elements and the
content goes into the right cell. (this is called nested tables). For the
reason why you should use nested tables, have a look at the various table
and background image tutorials at the link in my sig.

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"lmp736" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

I tried to look up those sites but they are not coming up. I am new at
designing web sites, as I am sure you can tell. I need to create a page
to
look like www.heinesolutions.com
The blue top and left sides are what I need... I don't think that they
are
frames. How would I create this. If you can help me please write
back!!!!
thank you for your time ---LISA

Try this - changing the background image to suit (this uses an image not a
colour) Design a colour swatch to the width you'd like the background image
to be - either solid colour or textured as needed Did you have a look here
how to implement background images:
http://www.dreamweaverresources.com/tutorials/pagebackgrounds/index.htm

Paste the following just before the closing </head> tag of your document
Take note of the /*comment*/ use your own image ...

<style type="text/css">
<!--
body {
padding: 0;
margin: -10px 0 0 -10px;
/*/*/margin: 0 0 0 0; /* */
background: url(pics/bckgroundhor.jpg); /* - change to your own
image */
background-repeat: repeat-y;
background-color: white;
}
-->

If you only declare a colour it will colour your whole page, that's why you
need a graphic sized at the width you require for this to work.
PS: You can look at the source code of various pages to see how they have
been put together btw.

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