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Floating Tables -
11-16-2004
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Are floating tables (the kind that are right-aligned and flow within a block of text) 'safe' on most browsers? I've never read any cautions about them, but one of my graphic designers is telling me that they shouldn't be used because they can cause some browsers to display the page abnormally wide. Thanks. |
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Show me the code that creates one of these, please. I'm not familiar with a 'floating table'. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Bob McLain" <bob (AT) pwaccess (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cncqsu$1qt$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Are floating tables (the kind that are right-aligned and flow within a block of text) 'safe' on most browsers? I've never read any cautions about them, but one of my graphic designers is telling me that they shouldn't be used because they can cause some browsers to display the page abnormally wide. Thanks. |
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Here's the code, as you request: td bgcolor="#FFFFE1" width="720"> <font size="-1"><strong>How do I pay you?</strong><img name="" src="" width="1" height="20" alt="" style="background-color: #FFFFFF" /><br / If you live in the United States, we take PayPal, money orders, personal checks, and U.S. dollars. We hold personal checks until they clear, unless table width="150" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="right" tr><td bgcolor="#F0AC80"><font face="verdana" size="-1">side-table text here<br />side-table text here<br />side-table text here<br />side-table text here<br />side-table text here<br /></font></td></tr></table we've done good business with you before - p><strong>How do I pay you?</strong><br / If you live in the United States, we take PayPal, money orders, personal checks, and U.S. dollars. We hold personal checks until they clear, unless we've done good business with you before - </p p><strong>How do I pay you?</strong><br / If you live in the United States, we take PayPal, money orders, personal checks, and U.S. dollars. We hold personal checks until they clear, unless we've done good business with you before - </p /font></td The 'side-table text here' table should be right-aligned against the other text. "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cncr36$25t$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Show me the code that creates one of these, please. I'm not familiar with a 'floating table'. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Bob McLain" <bob (AT) pwaccess (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cncqsu$1qt$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Are floating tables (the kind that are right-aligned and flow within a block of text) 'safe' on most browsers? I've never read any cautions about them, but one of my graphic designers is telling me that they shouldn't be used because they can cause some browsers to display the page abnormally wide. Thanks. |
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I suppose they are telling you that because they are graphic designers and not web developers. What you have pasted below is a simple nested table. The inner table is inserted inline in the content of the outer table. I would not expect any such problems with this kind of arrangement. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== |
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Thanks for the confirmation. I couldn't imagine why nested tables would pose any problems. Second bit - this same designer counsels against using spacer gifs to hold open empty table cells at a specified width. I always thought spacer gifs were the best solution. Are there alternative methods that will do the same work without the use of spacers? "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cnctoe$5lt$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... I suppose they are telling you that because they are graphic designers and not web developers. What you have pasted below is a simple nested table. The inner table is inserted inline in the content of the outer table. I would not expect any such problems with this kind of arrangement. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== |
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CSS will work as well, but spacer GIFs are fine. Looking at your code in the previous post, I'm guessing that you are not using CSS so much, so stick with the spacers for now. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Bob McLain" <bob (AT) pwaccess (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cncu4u$66k$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Thanks for the confirmation. I couldn't imagine why nested tables would pose any problems. Second bit - this same designer counsels against using spacer gifs to hold open empty table cells at a specified width. I always thought spacer gifs were the best solution. Are there alternative methods that will do the same work without the use of spacers? "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cnctoe$5lt$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... I suppose they are telling you that because they are graphic designers and not web developers. What you have pasted below is a simple nested table. The inner table is inserted inline in the content of the outer table. I would not expect any such problems with this kind of arrangement. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== |
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Will an embedded style sheet work properly if put in the <body> section? |
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Thanks so much for your clear answers! |
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"Bob McLain" <bob (AT) pwaccess (DOT) com> wrote
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One final question - I know it's technically wrong to embed a style sheet in the <body> section of a document, but for eBay listings, it's the only place available for them, since sellers have no access to the <head> section. Will an embedded style sheet work properly if put in the <body> section? Thanks so much for your clear answers! "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cncuod$6vd$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... CSS will work as well, but spacer GIFs are fine. Looking at your code in the previous post, I'm guessing that you are not using CSS so much, so stick with the spacers for now. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== "Bob McLain" <bob (AT) pwaccess (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cncu4u$66k$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... Thanks for the confirmation. I couldn't imagine why nested tables would pose any problems. Second bit - this same designer counsels against using spacer gifs to hold open empty table cells at a specified width. I always thought spacer gifs were the best solution. Are there alternative methods that will do the same work without the use of spacers? "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cnctoe$5lt$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com... I suppose they are telling you that because they are graphic designers and not web developers. What you have pasted below is a simple nested table. The inner table is inserted inline in the content of the outer table. I would not expect any such problems with this kind of arrangement. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage! http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes ================== |
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Second bit - this same designer counsels against using spacer gifs to hold open empty table cells at a specified width. I always thought spacer gifs were the best solution. Are there alternative methods that will do the same work without the use of spacers? |
However if you are not familar with css and clean html code, it might be
best to stick with the spacer gif for a while. The spacer gif gives
extra insurance that a cell wont collapse.
Having said that I personally have no experience of table cells
collapsing when asigned with a width. The cleaner the code the more
chance you obviously have of browsers abiding by the measurements you
specify. The mathematics of a construction is essential.
Its difficult to say for certain. When I used quite complex tables
structures to design I did use a spacer gif and found this to be the
best method.
Now with css the spacer gif is somewhat redundant.
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collapsing when asigned with a width. |
of 100px. Put a 150px wide image in the second cell. What happens?
The point is, these dimension specification DO NOTHING to ensure the
structure of your table. So - why use them at all. Tables with NO
dimensions (other than 100% width cells) are just as reliable, predictable,
and stable as those with mathematically accurate dimensions. Why waste the
time with the calculator?
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The mathematics of a construction is essential. |
dimensions are a controlling factor.
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"Osgood" <notavailable (AT) atthisaddress (DOT) com> wrote
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Bob McLain wrote: Second bit - this same designer counsels against using spacer gifs to hold open empty table cells at a specified width. I always thought spacer gifs were the best solution. Are there alternative methods that will do the same work without the use of spacers? You can use css now instead of spacer gifs. However if you are not familar with css and clean html code, it might be best to stick with the spacer gif for a while. The spacer gif gives extra insurance that a cell wont collapse. Having said that I personally have no experience of table cells collapsing when asigned with a width. The cleaner the code the more chance you obviously have of browsers abiding by the measurements you specify. The mathematics of a construction is essential. Its difficult to say for certain. When I used quite complex tables structures to design I did use a spacer gif and found this to be the best method. Now with css the spacer gif is somewhat redundant. |
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