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Chris \(Hunt\)
 
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Default Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-01-2004 , 08:54 PM






I'm using Dreamweaver MX. I have a library item that contains an image with
the Kaos Random Links Behaviour attached to it. I followed the steps
outlined in Dreamweaver Help for making changes to the Behaviour and
updating the library item. But when Dreamweaver comes to update the library
item it crashes completely and constantly.

I've only created two pages at the moment. I wanted to make sure everything
was working before going further. It seems using a library item is not the
way to go. Would making a template be a better bet? I've heard mention of
SSI but don't know anything about this (this isn't my main job).

Is Dreamweaver MX2004 any better at handling templates and library items?
I'd like to be able to update the random links behaviour from time to time
and have the changes made site wide. Is it possible to do this?

Thanks,

Chris (Hunt)



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Default Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-01-2004 , 10:20 PM






Quote:
I followed the steps
outlined in Dreamweaver Help for making changes to the Behaviour and
updating the library item.
What are these steps? Where did you find them?

In general, once you make a Library item, you cannot successfully edit
behaviors applied to elements. This is because a proper Library item has no
<head> or <body> tags....

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Quote:
I'm using Dreamweaver MX. I have a library item that contains an image
with
the Kaos Random Links Behaviour attached to it. But when Dreamweaver comes
to update the library
item it crashes completely and constantly.

I've only created two pages at the moment. I wanted to make sure
everything
was working before going further. It seems using a library item is not the
way to go. Would making a template be a better bet? I've heard mention of
SSI but don't know anything about this (this isn't my main job).

Is Dreamweaver MX2004 any better at handling templates and library items?
I'd like to be able to update the random links behaviour from time to time
and have the changes made site wide. Is it possible to do this?

Thanks,

Chris (Hunt)





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Default Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-02-2004 , 12:43 AM



Thanks for repling. Here are the steps I followed, from the Dreamweaver MX
Help file:

--------------------------

To edit a behavior in a library item:

1. Open a document that contains the library item.
Note the name of the library item, as well as the exact tags it
contains. You’ll need this information in steps 8 and 9.

2. Select the library item and click Detach from Original in the Property
inspector.

3. Select the element that has the behavior attached to it.

4. Choose Window > Behaviors to open the Behaviors panel. In the Behaviors
panel, double-click the action you want to change.

5. In the dialog box that appears, make the necessary changes and click OK.

6. Choose Window > Library to open the Library category of the Assets panel.

7. Make sure you have recorded the exact name of the original library item;
then select the original library item, and delete it by clicking the Delete
button in the Assets panel.

8. In the Document window, select all of the elements that make up the
library item.

Be careful to select exactly the same elements that were in the original
library item.

9. In the Assets panel, click the New Library Item button, and give the new
item the same name as the item you deleted in step 7.

Be sure to use exactly the same spelling and capitalization.

10. To update the library item in your site’s other documents, choose
Modify > Library > Update Pages.

11. In the Update Pages dialog box, in the Look in pop-up menu, select Files
That Use.

12. In the adjacent pop-up menu, choose the name of the library item you
just created.

13. In the Update option, make sure Library Items is selected, and then
click Start.

14. When the updates are complete, click Close to exit the Update Pages
dialog box.

--------------------------

If there's another way without using a library item, that's fine. I want the
graphic on every page and I want to be able to update the random links
periodically.

Chris

----- Original Message ----- edited
From: "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com>
Newsgroups: macromedia.dreamweaver
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item

Quote:
What are these steps? Where did you find them?

In general, once you make a Library item, you cannot successfully edit
behaviors applied to elements. This is because a proper Library item has
no
head> or <body> tags....



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Default Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-02-2004 , 07:15 AM



Amazingly enough, those steps should work. Editing a Library item's
behaviors is an impractical and difficult thing.

Are you sure you completed those steps properly? Have you considered using
a Template or a server-side include?

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"Chris (Hunt)" <now (AT) wisemeathat (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Thanks for repling. Here are the steps I followed, from the Dreamweaver MX
Help file:

--------------------------

To edit a behavior in a library item:

1. Open a document that contains the library item.
Note the name of the library item, as well as the exact tags it
contains. You’ll need this information in steps 8 and 9.

2. Select the library item and click Detach from Original in the Property
inspector.

3. Select the element that has the behavior attached to it.

4. Choose Window > Behaviors to open the Behaviors panel. In the Behaviors
panel, double-click the action you want to change.

5. In the dialog box that appears, make the necessary changes and click
OK.

6. Choose Window > Library to open the Library category of the Assets
panel.

7. Make sure you have recorded the exact name of the original library
item;
then select the original library item, and delete it by clicking the
Delete
button in the Assets panel.

8. In the Document window, select all of the elements that make up the
library item.

Be careful to select exactly the same elements that were in the original
library item.

9. In the Assets panel, click the New Library Item button, and give the
new
item the same name as the item you deleted in step 7.

Be sure to use exactly the same spelling and capitalization.

10. To update the library item in your site’s other documents,
choose
Modify > Library > Update Pages.

11. In the Update Pages dialog box, in the Look in pop-up menu, select
Files
That Use.

12. In the adjacent pop-up menu, choose the name of the library item you
just created.

13. In the Update option, make sure Library Items is selected, and then
click Start.

14. When the updates are complete, click Close to exit the Update Pages
dialog box.

--------------------------

If there's another way without using a library item, that's fine. I want
the
graphic on every page and I want to be able to update the random links
periodically.

Chris

----- Original Message ----- edited
From: "Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com
Newsgroups: macromedia.dreamweaver
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item


What are these steps? Where did you find them?

In general, once you make a Library item, you cannot successfully edit
behaviors applied to elements. This is because a proper Library item
has
no
head> or <body> tags....





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Default Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-02-2004 , 06:14 PM



I'm almost certain I got the right steps. It did work once or twice but
crashed more often than not. I've given up on the library idea. What I want
to do I feel should be easy but is eluding me. I wanted to create a fixed
width centred box with a header and footer and two boxes, one a sidebar for
navigation and the other on the right for content. Then I could make the
left box an uneditable region to contain the menu. I found the link you
posted to roast-horse.com useful and I created a header and two boxes but I
can't make the appear of equal length. More pointers would be really
appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris


"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Amazingly enough, those steps should work. Editing a Library item's
behaviors is an impractical and difficult thing.

Are you sure you completed those steps properly? Have you considered
using
a Template or a server-side include?

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Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)



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Default Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-03-2004 , 07:24 AM



If you are crashing with Library items, then something is wrong with your
operating environment. You can ignore that, but it will come back to bite
you.

You can do what you want using Library items, Templates, or server-side
includes. A bit of reading in DW's F1 help would be a good way to start on
these.

Quote:
I created a header and two boxes but I
can't make the appear of equal length.
Why not use a table?

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"Chris (Hunt)" <now (AT) wisemeathat (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I'm almost certain I got the right steps. It did work once or twice but
crashed more often than not. I've given up on the library idea. What I
want
to do I feel should be easy but is eluding me. I wanted to create a fixed
width centred box with a header and footer and two boxes, one a sidebar
for
navigation and the other on the right for content. Then I could make the
left box an uneditable region to contain the menu. I found the link you
posted to roast-horse.com useful and I created a header and two boxes but
I
can't make the appear of equal length. More pointers would be really
appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris


"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:cel7nj$jkq$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Amazingly enough, those steps should work. Editing a Library item's
behaviors is an impractical and difficult thing.

Are you sure you completed those steps properly? Have you considered
using
a Template or a server-side include?

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)





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Default Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-03-2004 , 08:43 AM



I recently used Windows update so I wonder if one of Microsoft's security
patches has given Dreamweaver a nasty side effect. As for using a table, I'd
prefer to use CSS. Isn't CSS the way it should be done? I'm planning to use
the PVII swapclass menu. I think that uses a layer and I thought a layer
shouldn't be placed in a table - or am I getting mixed up with frames?

Chris


"Murray *TMM*" < write (edited)
Quote:
If you are crashing with Library items, then something is wrong with your
operating environment. You can ignore that, but it will come back to bite
you.

You can do what you want using Library items, Templates, or server-side
includes. A bit of reading in DW's F1 help would be a good way to start
on
these.

I created a header and two boxes but I
can't make the appear of equal length.

Why not use a table?





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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: Fatal Exception Updating Library Item - 08-03-2004 , 09:25 AM



Chris:

My systems are always fully updated with security patches, so I doubt that
this is the source of the problem.

Quote:
As for using a table, I'd
prefer to use CSS. Isn't CSS the way it should be done?
The way it should be done? According to who? Do what works. Learn CSS.
At some point, you will find that your reliance on tables diminishes. This
is the very ZEN way to progress.... 8)

Quote:
I think that uses a layer and I thought a layer
shouldn't be placed in a table - or am I getting mixed up with frames?
Let's just say that the '...mixed up...' part is correct.

Do it with a table. Work on it over time. You'll see how to change it
when you are ready to.

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"Chris (Hunt)" <now (AT) wisemeathat (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I recently used Windows update so I wonder if one of Microsoft's security
patches has given Dreamweaver a nasty side effect. As for using a table,
I'd
prefer to use CSS. Isn't CSS the way it should be done? I'm planning to
use
the PVII swapclass menu. I think that uses a layer and I thought a layer
shouldn't be placed in a table - or am I getting mixed up with frames?

Chris


"Murray *TMM*" < write (edited)
If you are crashing with Library items, then something is wrong with
your
operating environment. You can ignore that, but it will come back to
bite
you.

You can do what you want using Library items, Templates, or server-side
includes. A bit of reading in DW's F1 help would be a good way to start
on
these.

I created a header and two boxes but I
can't make the appear of equal length.

Why not use a table?







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