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Hi!

I'm so greatful! I think it worked but I have just tested the index site yet!
Another question, does it matter where in the "head" I place it? Do you have a
suggestion?

And now the thing with the pixels. 1024, is too much you said. OK, so maybe
900 is better? The reason that I took 1024 was that I have 1280 . But the
problem with this thing is that I must change all the tables in this site:
www.hdator.com/nyhetsarkivet.htm. Do you know how to change all borders fast ?

Hehe I must say thanks again! I hope you have time to help me with these 2
questions as well !!!

On Thu 24 Jun 2004 01:15:02p, makan_amini wrote in
macromedia.dreamweaver:

I'm so greatful! I think it worked but I have just tested the index
site yet! Another question, does it matter where in the "head" I
place it? Do you have a suggestion?

It shouldn't matter. A better bet is to externalize it. Cut everything
that's not an html tag:

<script> <== leave this out
<!-- <== leave this out
javascript found here ... <== cut this
//--> <== leave this out
</script><== leave this out

Create a new text file called, say, myscripts.js. Paste what you just
cut into the myscripts.js file. Now, add the following line to your
head:

<script language="JavaScript" src="myscripts.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

Then get rid of the empty script tag you left when you cut out the
javascript.

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC), "makan_amini"
<webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote:

I'm so greatful! I think it worked but I have just tested the index site yet!
Another question, does it matter where in the "head" I place it? Do you have a
suggestion?

I think Joe gave you some good advice about putting it in an external
file. If you leave it in the HTML file, it shouldn't matter where it
goes, as long as it comes before the </head> tag.

And now the thing with the pixels. 1024, is too much you said. OK, so maybe
900 is better? The reason that I took 1024 was that I have 1280 . But the
problem with this thing is that I must change all the tables in this site:
www.hdator.com/nyhetsarkivet.htm. Do you know how to change all borders fast ?

I too have a 1280 wide display, but my browser window is rarely wider
than 800 pixels. Global stats, that may or may not be appropriate to
your target demographic, show that more than 1/3 of all users are still
using 800x600 resolution screens. You can see the specific numbers at:

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2004/May/res.php

Like I said, those may or may not have relevance to your target users. I
cannot get your link to come up right now, but I'll say that any page
that requires a browser window wider than about 770 is in risk of having
horizontal scroll bars and that's usually considered bad form.


Gary

Hi again!

AS you can see I have fixed the errors on the page. Thank you very much for
the help! Soon I'm going to make the site to 924 px instead of 1024. Anything
else i should change on the page or does it look good now?

Thanks again! (To bad, Sweden lost against Holand in the Euro 2004.... )

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:42:37 +0000 (UTC), "makan_amini"
<webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote:

AS you can see I have fixed the errors on the page. Thank you very much for
the help! Soon I'm going to make the site to 924 px instead of 1024. Anything
else i should change on the page or does it look good now?

It looks fine. The only problem, aside from it being extremely wide is
that it's 557k! The page is huge.


Gary

Hi again.

Yes the site is big! Do you thing under 300 k would be OK? Another big site is
www.hdator.com/nyhetssidan.htm. The site is about handhelds and smartphones in
swedish, and the "nyhetsarkivet" is were all the old aricles are. I'm really an
amature so I don't know how to fix this in another way. If I have one site for
each aricle it would be to many sites. And if I want to change something in one
of them, I would be changing all sites. How can I solve this?

Thank you.

On 27 Jun 2004 in macromedia.dreamweaver, makan_amini wrote:

Yes the site is big! Do you thing under 300 k would be OK?

On a 56K dialup, 45K total page weight (size of html file + size of all
image files + size of all included js and css files + size of all other
media) will download in around 10 seconds. Somebody did research which
indicates that after 10 seconds, visitors tend to get itchy mouse fingers
and go elsewhere. So you have to have engaging content presented to the
visitor within 10 seconds.

Some possible exceptions to the 45K/10 second 'rule':
- You know that all your visitors will have a high-speed connection. An
example would be an intranet.
- You don't care about people coming in on dialup.
- The page is not the first page a visitor is likely to see. An example
is an image page, where you've already caught their attention and warned
them that the page they're going to see has a lot of images and is slow
to load.
- You get the visitor with content somewhere near the top of the page,
and load larger elements, which take longer, near the bottom.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.net/
Email: http://makowiec.net/email.php

I posted the wrong link..

http://www.hdator.com/nyhetsarkivet.htm

Another question. Here in Macromedia.com you have the page in the middle of
the screen and it doesn't matter how wide your screen is. That looks good, how
can I make my site always in the middle?

Thank you again!

Hi again

Now I have made the index site much smaller, to 170 k. If you have a 56 k
modem you can't expect any sites to be very fast .

I have also made the with to 900 px instead of 1024.

2 questions left:

1) How can I make the site always appear in the middle like Macromedia.com?
2) If I want to change something in the for example, navigation bar to the
left I have to change all my sites. That takes much time. How can I do instead?

Thanks a lot!

For what it's worth, there are many sites that load quickly on 56k modems. Try the PVII site, for example. Use that as your guidline for what's possible.

http://www.projectseven.com