DWCS4 - Preview in Browser Problem

Linda King posted in macromedia.dreamweaver

Yes, all JS will stop working. Search engines do not execute JS
anyway.

I put that in that way to ease the burden of changing it
annually. I've no doubt there's a better way, but that seemed
to work and I stopped looking. Quest will resume.

Look into SSI or PHP includes. F1 has good information about it.

Tell me it isn't so! Do we really have to learn SSI or PHP to
make our web sites work right?

It isn't so!

But for using a single file for inlcusion in multiple pages, it is
more reliable than JavaScript. And very handy!

There really isn't much to learn for SSI, but your server does need
to support it. If you go the PHP route, chances are, you might
decide to use utilize it for much more than simple includes.

But neither is required for a fully functional, perfectly working
site.

Where's the straight jacket? I'm turning myself into the local
Funny Farm.

Wait! Don't go there until you've developed a complete list of buzz
words for the bingo game. PHP, ASP, ColdFusion, Perl, CGI,
JavaScript, Java, AJAX, JQuery, Apache Directives,.htacess, mime
types, and many more.

You have a long way to go before you qualify for the Funny Farm.


--
Mark "They're coming to take me away" Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin'

Wait! Don't go there until you've developed a complete list of buzz
words for the bingo game. PHP, ASP, ColdFusion, Perl, CGI,

JavaScript, Java, AJAX, JQuery, Apache Directives,.htacess, mime
types, and many more.

You have a long way to go before you qualify for the Funny Farm.
--
Mark "They're coming to take me away" Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin'

Mark,

I got a kick out of your response. I think I should make that song my alma
mater. :-)

Yes, all JS will stop working. Search engines do not execute JS anyway.

What about Project Seven Menus? Aren't they based on JS?

But for using a single file for inlcusion in multiple pages, it is more
reliable than JavaScript. And very handy!

I'm working on SSI now, thanks to Murray.

There really isn't much to learn for SSI, but your server does need to
support it. If you go the PHP route, chances are, you might decide to use

utilize it for much more than simple includes.

It appears my server does support SSI. I use iPower.

Linda King posted in macromedia.dreamweaver

I got a kick out of your response. I think I should make that
song my alma mater. :-)

Ha, hah, hee hee, ho ho...

It's stuck in my head now

Yes, all JS will stop working. Search engines do not execute JS
anyway.

What about Project Seven Menus? Aren't they based on JS?

Yes, but knowing that team, they probably fail gracefully.

The navigation on their own pages works fine without JavaScript, and is
enhanced with JavaScript. Their Accordian Panel 2 fails gracefully with
all panels open with JS turned off. I'm sure there are other examples
there. All of the information appears to be available to me.

A common mistake I've seen people make when using a JS-based menu is
neglecting to include a link in a top level menu item when there are
submenus.

To cover a situation where JS may be off or unavailable, always have
the main menu item link to a page which contains links to sub pages
that are/were included in the submenu - and some relavent content, of
course.

Use JS to enhance a site, but do not depend on it or require it to
provide information from the site.


--
Mark A. Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin'

To cover a situation where JS may be off or unavailable, always have the
main menu item link to a page which contains links to sub pages that are/were

included in the submenu - and some relavent content, of
course.

Use JS to enhance a site, but do not depend on it or require it to provide
information from the site.

Good to know. One of my own websites has information contained within an
accordion panel. I was thinking of upgrading to the new Accordion Panel Magic
2. Any thoughts on that?

"Mark A. Boyd" <lingoboyd (AT) mboydDotcom (DOT) invalid> wrote

A common mistake I've seen people make when using a JS-based menu is
neglecting to include a link in a top level menu item when there are
submenus.

To cover a situation where JS may be off or unavailable, always have
the main menu item link to a page which contains links to sub pages
that are/were included in the submenu - and some relavent content, of
course.

Great point, Mark. We actually built in a failsafe for just that in PMM2 so
that if folks leave the root item as a null link, we grab the first link in
the submenu and assign it to the root. For times when script is disabled,
our approach is from a more measured accessibility perspective than most
others. For a large menu, simply revealing it is often the worst thing you
can do for blind people and for people who must use a keyboard. Our user
guide discusses these topics and points to a live demo:
http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm2/ug-examples/accessible/

Use JS to enhance a site, but do not depend on it or require it to
provide information from the site.

Can't go wrong with that advice.


--
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/apm
An Accessible & Elegant Accordion

"Linda King" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

To cover a situation where JS may be off or unavailable, always have the
main menu item link to a page which contains links to sub pages that
are/were
included in the submenu - and some relavent content, of
course.

Use JS to enhance a site, but do not depend on it or require it to
provide
information from the site.

Good to know. One of my own websites has information contained within an
accordion panel. I was thinking of upgrading to the new Accordion Panel
Magic
2. Any thoughts on that?

I'll leave functional opinions to others since I'm biased :-) What I can
guarantee, though, is that Accordion Panel Magic 2 is the most accessible
accordion panel widget on the planet.


--
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/apm
An Accessible & Elegant Accordion

Linda King posted in macromedia.dreamweaver

Good to know. One of my own websites has information contained
within an accordion panel. I was thinking of upgrading to the new
Accordion Panel Magic 2. Any thoughts on that?

I don't happen use accordian panels, so far, on any of my sites. I'm
sure theirs is top-notch, but I cannot help you with such a
decision. The factors required for determining its value to you are
all in your court.



--
Mark A. Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin'

Al Sparber - PVII posted in macromedia.dreamweaver

"Mark A. Boyd" <lingoboyd (AT) mboydDotcom (DOT) invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9BDB6E989FA90mblistssanDotrrcom (AT) 216 (DOT) 104.212.96...
A common mistake I've seen people make when using a JS-based menu
is neglecting to include a link in a top level menu item when
there are submenus.

Great point, Mark. We actually built in a failsafe for just that
in PMM2 so that if folks leave the root item as a null link, we
grab the first link in the submenu and assign it to the root. For
times when script is disabled, our approach is from a more
measured accessibility perspective than most others. For a large
menu, simply revealing it is often the worst thing you can do for
blind people and for people who must use a keyboard. Our user
guide discusses these topics and points to a live demo:
http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm2/ug-examples/a
ccessible/

I figured you guys were on top of it.


--
Mark A. Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin'

Thanks for the feedback. You have a great product Al.