Dreamweaver FTP still doesn't work

So I've been trying to get FTP to work in (Mac) Dreamweaver -- and I've tried
every version since MX 2004. But they all fail. This problem has been posted
in this forum (and many others) in the past. Whenever you try to connect/test
an FTP server, you immediately get this exact error:

"An FTP error occurred -- cannot make connection to host."

This error happens instantly. There is nothing to see in the FTP log. It is
not related to any FTP timeouts, firewall settings, etc. I have stayed at
Dreamweaver MX 2004 because it's FTP works (and continues to work). Every
version of Dreamweaver I've tried since then, CS, CS 2, CS 3, etc. all give
this same error. I've tried deleting ssh_hosts. I've deleted keychains. I've
tried reinstalling. I've deleted preferences. Rebuild site caches. I've tried
different servers, hosts, etc. FTP (with and without all the Passive, etc.
options, SFTP, etc. I've tested FTP/SFTP in other programs, in the Terminal
etc. I've turned off Firewalls, removed routers, etc. What am I missing?

Why is Dreamweaver MX 2004 the last version able to perform FTP operations on
our Mac?

"An FTP error occurred -- cannot make connection to host."

This usually means your FTP details are not correct.

What do you have in the Remote site definition fields?

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"jca1138" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

So I've been trying to get FTP to work in (Mac) Dreamweaver -- and I've
tried
every version since MX 2004. But they all fail. This problem has been
posted
in this forum (and many others) in the past. Whenever you try to
connect/test
an FTP server, you immediately get this exact error:

"An FTP error occurred -- cannot make connection to host."

This error happens instantly. There is nothing to see in the FTP log. It
is
not related to any FTP timeouts, firewall settings, etc. I have stayed at
Dreamweaver MX 2004 because it's FTP works (and continues to work). Every
version of Dreamweaver I've tried since then, CS, CS 2, CS 3, etc. all
give
this same error. I've tried deleting ssh_hosts. I've deleted keychains.
I've
tried reinstalling. I've deleted preferences. Rebuild site caches. I've
tried
different servers, hosts, etc. FTP (with and without all the Passive, etc.
options, SFTP, etc. I've tested FTP/SFTP in other programs, in the
Terminal
etc. I've turned off Firewalls, removed routers, etc. What am I missing?

Why is Dreamweaver MX 2004 the last version able to perform FTP operations
on
our Mac?

[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User

"An FTP error occurred -- cannot make connection to host."

This usually means your FTP details are not correct.

What do you have in the Remote site definition fields?[/q]

As I've mentioned, I've tried different combinations of details that I know
work (server/login/password) in other FTP clients (even the Terminal) and in
Dreamweaver MX 2004. The error isn't related to a particular site definition,
host, server/login/password, etc.

I have even tried the test settings (as both a Site definition or FTP/RDS
server in "Sites") of:

server: ftp.irs.gov
login: anonymous

and get the same error.

I tried running Dreamweaver as a different user and root, and get the same
error.

Since the error is instantaneous (it happens immediately -- whether you are
using the Connect button in a "Files" window, or simply clicking the "Test"
button in a Site remote info screen -- and the FTP log is blank), it doesn't
seem like Dreamweaver is even opening an FTP connection.

What has changed with Dreamweaver FTP compared to MX 2004? (The last version
to work -- which still continues to work.)

Here is one of the old threads discussing this same issue from several years
ago:


http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=12&catid=18
9&threadid=1146661

I couldn't get FTP working then and I can't get it working now.

Tell me what you have in the Remote site definition fields for a site that
doesn't work, please.

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"jca1138" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
"An FTP error occurred -- cannot make connection to host."

This usually means your FTP details are not correct.

What do you have in the Remote site definition fields?[/q]

As I've mentioned, I've tried different combinations of details that I
know
work (server/login/password) in other FTP clients (even the Terminal) and
in
Dreamweaver MX 2004. The error isn't related to a particular site
definition,
host, server/login/password, etc.

I have even tried the test settings (as both a Site definition or FTP/RDS
server in "Sites") of:

server: ftp.irs.gov
login: anonymous

and get the same error.

I tried running Dreamweaver as a different user and root, and get the same
error.

Since the error is instantaneous (it happens immediately -- whether you
are
using the Connect button in a "Files" window, or simply clicking the
"Test"
button in a Site remote info screen -- and the FTP log is blank), it
doesn't
seem like Dreamweaver is even opening an FTP connection.

What has changed with Dreamweaver FTP compared to MX 2004? (The last
version
to work -- which still continues to work.)

jca1138 posted in macromedia.dreamweaver

I have even tried the test settings (as both a Site definition or
FTP/RDS
server in "Sites") of:

server: ftp.irs.gov
login: anonymous

and get the same error.

Are you sure they allow uploads with anonymous FTP? I didn't try myself,
since immediatly after loggin in, quite a bit of text in the welcome
message appears, including...

"This U.S. Government Computer System is for 'Official Use Only'. Private use
is prohibited. Any information placed on this system may be monitored, copied,
or disclosed to law enforcement agencies at the discretion of your systems
administrator, functional manager, or their designated agents(s). Use of the
System constitutes your understanding to these terms."

If you really are trying to test with a government server, I suggest either
using an authenticated login, or testing with your own server instead.

I wouldn't rely on anonymous FTP as a valid test of DW's Site Management
FTP features. Many (most?, all?) anon FTP dropboxes are not set up to double
as Web sites - for very good reasons!

FWIW, I have also experienced rather iffy success with DW's FTP ever since
DW2 or 3. I invariably end up using a different FTP client - perhaps because
I also like having easy access to other FTP commands. But I am also aware
that many people use DW FTP reliably. Don't know why some of us can and some
of us cannot depend on DW's FTP.

Just a pattern observed over the years.


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[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
Tell me what you have in the Remote site definition fields for a site that
doesn't work, please.[/q]

I created a new site in both Dreamweaver 2004 MX and Dreamweaver CS 3 with
these same settings for testing/comparison:

----------------
Access type: FTP
FTP host: ftp.irs.gov
Host directory:
Login: anonymous
Password:

[X] Use passive FTP
----------------

In Dreamweaver 2004 MX, clicking the "Test" button gives this message:

"Dreamweaver connected to your server successfully."

In Dreamweaver CS 3, clicking the "Test" button gives this message:

"An FTP error occurred - cannot make connection to host."

(Saving the site and trying to connect via the Files/Site pane produces the
same results.)

As I mentioned in the previous post, this problem doesn't change when trying
different settings.

To answer the original poster, the reason I'm using ftp.irs.gov as an example
is it is a public/anonymous FTP server people often use to test making FTP
connections, and is even mentioned by adobe:

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14834

Thanks. For what it's worth, I cannot connect to that gov site in CS4
either. I'm checking to see if there's any info available for this
problem....

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"jca1138" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
Tell me what you have in the Remote site definition fields for a site that
doesn't work, please.[/q]

I created a new site in both Dreamweaver 2004 MX and Dreamweaver CS 3 with
these same settings for testing/comparison:

----------------
Access type: FTP
FTP host: ftp.irs.gov
Host directory:
Login: anonymous
Password:

[X] Use passive FTP
----------------

In Dreamweaver 2004 MX, clicking the "Test" button gives this message:

"Dreamweaver connected to your server successfully."

In Dreamweaver CS 3, clicking the "Test" button gives this message:

"An FTP error occurred - cannot make connection to host."

(Saving the site and trying to connect via the Files/Site pane produces
the
same results.)

As I mentioned in the previous post, this problem doesn't change when
trying
different settings.

To answer the original poster, the reason I'm using ftp.irs.gov as an
example
is it is a public/anonymous FTP server people often use to test making FTP
connections, and is even mentioned by adobe:

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14834

jca1138 posted in macromedia.dreamweaver

To answer the original poster,

Eh, you are the original poster in this thread, but...

the reason I'm using ftp.irs.gov
as an example
is it is a public/anonymous FTP server people often use to test
making FTP connections, and is even mentioned by adobe:

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14834

Interesting. FWIW, anonymous FTP often requires an email address for
the password, which is how I tested in the command line FTP client. I
used nobody (AT) example (DOT) com in my test.

I didn't try without the address, but see if it makes any difference.

(I also don't have DW available at the moment).


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Mark:

Didn't work for me to add the bogus email address to the password field....

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"Mark A. Boyd" <lingoboyd (AT) mboydDotcom (DOT) invalid> wrote

jca1138 posted in macromedia.dreamweaver

To answer the original poster,

Eh, you are the original poster in this thread, but...

the reason I'm using ftp.irs.gov
as an example
is it is a public/anonymous FTP server people often use to test
making FTP connections, and is even mentioned by adobe:

http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_14834

Interesting. FWIW, anonymous FTP often requires an email address for
the password, which is how I tested in the command line FTP client. I
used nobody (AT) example (DOT) com in my test.

I didn't try without the address, but see if it makes any difference.

(I also don't have DW available at the moment).


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