"Dreamweave Encountered a Fatal Exception" ???

Tribulato:

44% System Resources after a cold boot and after starting DMX2004 is not
good. As soon as you begin to actually use DMX, your resources will plummet
yet again, and as soon as you get into the 20% region, you will inevitably
crash. This is the whole problem with W9x/WMe - they are based on a 15 year
old memory model and are hopelessly short of system resources (adding more
RAM will not help).

For your information, here's how any manufacturer determines minimum
requirements - they reformat a hard drive, and do a fresh install of the
OS - no AntiVirus, no system utilities, nothing. Then they see if the
application runs. It may be slow as molasses, but if it installs and runs,
then this OS makes the minimum cutoff. That's where W98SE is. Sorry....

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"Tribulatio" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Hi Murray! I have just conducted the test which you recommended. I am not
a very technical person, but I copy below the results as I saw them (after a

fresh reboot, running DWMX2004):

Memory: 383 Mo RAM
System resources: 44% free
Virtual Memory: 32 bits

I assume this is what you asked? I would very much appreciate your
opinion: a technician will probably visit me next week, so in case there is

a problem there, he might still do something on the computer in order to
improeve performances, possibly...

Thank you for your kind help! Too bad: MX2004 has improvements which are
quite useful for me compared with MX!

Thank you, Murray! I do really appreciate your frankness. Too bad I wasn't aware of that. But there is obviously nothing I can do here. Probably the best thing to do is to close all the other applications when I run DMX2004 - this should at least limit the risks of a crash, although I am now aware it won't suppress them completely.

I had not removed from my harddisk (on which I have a lot of free space) DW4 and MX. Would you advise me to return primarily to work with MX, or could the fact of having already used MX2004 on some files create conflicts and problems? I would appreciate to know.

Anyway, I should consider at some point installing a more modern version of Windows. The problem is that I have so many app installed on W98SE. All should be reinstalled, obviously...

Many thanks again!

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:25:45 +0000 (UTC), "Tribulatio"
webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com wrote:

Probably the best thing to do is to close all the other applications
when I run DMX2004 - this should at least limit the risks of a crash,
although I am now aware it won't suppress them completely.

There is one VERY important thing to remember: when the inevitable
crash does occur, do a cold re-boot of the machine. Shut it all the
way down to power off. Then re-start it. When those crashes occur, it
normally means that system memory has become corrupt. The only way to
positively correct that is the re-boot. Until that is done, the system
is unreliable and other crashes become more likely.


Gary

This is happening to me in a very specific case. Just one DW MX file is
terminating with a fatal exception, and ONLY when I switch to layout view. No
other DW MX file is having this problem. I tried copying the code into a brand
new file, double checked all the code for closing tags and such, and it still
crashes when I switch to layout mode - cold boot or not. I have hundreds of
other DW MX files that don't do this. There are no flash files or anything like
that referenced. It is only images, tables, and text with some CSS and rollover
behaviors. Yes, I have Win 98SE, but it has worked consistently on every other
file.

Has anyone figured this out yet?

Thanks,
Cyd

url address to this page then, please.

This is happening to me in a very specific case. Just one DW MX file is
terminating with a fatal exception, and ONLY when I switch to layout view. No
other DW MX file is having this problem. I tried copying the code into a brand
new file, double checked all the code for closing tags and such, and it still
crashes when I switch to layout mode - cold boot or not. I have hundreds of
other DW MX files that don't do this. There are no flash files or anything
like
that referenced. It is only images, tables, and text with some CSS and
rollover
behaviors. Yes, I have Win 98SE, but it has worked consistently on every other
file.

Has anyone figured this out yet?

Thanks,
Cyd

When you load DW, and then open that file, what is your W98 System Resources
value?

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"cydward" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

This is happening to me in a very specific case. Just one DW MX file is
terminating with a fatal exception, and ONLY when I switch to layout view.
No
other DW MX file is having this problem. I tried copying the code into a
brand
new file, double checked all the code for closing tags and such, and it
still
crashes when I switch to layout mode - cold boot or not. I have hundreds
of
other DW MX files that don't do this. There are no flash files or anything
like
that referenced. It is only images, tables, and text with some CSS and
rollover
behaviors. Yes, I have Win 98SE, but it has worked consistently on every
other
file.

Has anyone figured this out yet?

Thanks,
Cyd

I am encountering the same problem from Dreamweaver MX. This is on a clean
install of Dreamweaver on XP. Fireworks opens just fine. The error occurs
right after init. The app has never been used/opened on this machine. We
have tried re-install and I have used with and without the MX patch to 6.1.

0. What is your version of Dreamweaver? And when you right click on the DW
executable (dreamweaver.exe), then select Properties > Version, what is the
version number you see in the properties panel?
Can't get into the app, but should be both 6.0 and 6.1

1. What is your OS?
Win XP Pro SP1a w/ all recent updates

2. What is your AntiVirus?
Mcaffee 4.51 SP1

3. Is your AntiVirus doing realtime protection?
Yes on incomming.

4. What is your Firewall?
None on machine. Corporate firewall.

5. What other background programs are running?
None

6. What extensions do you have installed?
None

7. Are you *running* DMX from a network shared drive?
No

8. Where are your 'local' files? Are they on a network shared drive?
Local Drive

9. Have you ever been able to run DMX or is this a recent failure?
First run.

10. Does this only seem to happen with certain files/sites?
Haven't gotten that far.

11. Does recreating the site cache (SITE | Recreate Site Cache) help?
Not sure how to do that, will look into to make sure there is no corruptions.

Got something of a clue on this. My resources only go down 0-2% when I open
that file or anyother DW MX file. BUT! I figured since it was only crashing on
the switch to Layout mode, the problem might be layout related and after going
through the code with a fine tooth comb, I found that two of my rows had one
less TD than the others and when I added them, and then switched to Layout
mode, voila!, no more crash! However, when I tried to recreate the issue in
another file (by removing a TD and switching to layout mode), I couldn't
reproduce the crash, so this may or may not be of help to anyone else.

Thanks for the suggestions,
Cyd

[q]Originally posted by: cydward
Got something of a clue on this. My resources only go down 0-2% when I open
that file or anyother DW MX file. BUT! I figured since it was only crashing on
the switch to Layout mode, the problem might be layout related and after going
through the code with a fine tooth comb, I found that two of my rows had one
less TD than the others and when I added them, and then switched to Layout
mode, voila!, no more crash! However, when I tried to recreate the issue in
another file (by removing a TD and switching to layout mode), I couldn't
reproduce the crash, so this may or may not be of help to anyone else.


TD? Umm...care to explain for a techie but a non Dreamweaver techie so I can
see if it fixes my user's issue?
Thanks for the suggestions,
Cyd[/q]

Oops, sorry. TD stands for Table Data, and is a cell, much like in a
spreadsheet. Each TR (Table Row) can have one or more TDs, but ultimately, they
should add up to the same number (taking into account column spans and such).

Cyd