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Default Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 11:27 AM






I have the border set to zero -can anyone tell me how can I get rid of the
dotted line box that appears around linked/rollover images when you click on
them??

Thanks in advance!!!


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:. Nadia .:
 
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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 11:37 AM






HollyS wrote:
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I have the border set to zero -can anyone tell me how can I get rid
of the dotted line box that appears around linked/rollover images
when you click on them??

Thanks in advance!!!
You shouldn't really get rid of them, they are there for accessibility
purposes. If you have your borders set to 0, that should be enough.


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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 11:45 AM



HollyS,

They may not look nice to the majority of people, but to people with
disabilities it's an invaluable aid to navigation (especially those who TAB
around websites).

Forum users should take note - you Ozzies guys set the precendent of
accessible websites with that guy and the Olympic Games website. Here in the
UK, legislation comes into force October 2004 that WILL allow users who feel
discluded to seek damages in a court of law (and rightly so, in my opinion)
http://w3c.org

JC
":. Nadia .:" <forums@-ozzie-perrelink.com.au> wrote

Quote:
HollyS wrote:
I have the border set to zero -can anyone tell me how can I get rid
of the dotted line box that appears around linked/rollover images
when you click on them??

Thanks in advance!!!

You shouldn't really get rid of them, they are there for accessibility
purposes. If you have your borders set to 0, that should be enough.


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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 01:07 PM



You mean that I MUST make my site accessible?? Shouldn't that be my choice
or my client's choice?
Eleanor

"Jimmy Collins" <mceldon (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
HollyS,

They may not look nice to the majority of people, but to people with
disabilities it's an invaluable aid to navigation (especially those who
TAB
around websites).

Forum users should take note - you Ozzies guys set the precendent of
accessible websites with that guy and the Olympic Games website. Here in
the
UK, legislation comes into force October 2004 that WILL allow users who
feel
discluded to seek damages in a court of law (and rightly so, in my
opinion)
http://w3c.org

JC
":. Nadia .:" <forums@-ozzie-perrelink.com.au> wrote in message
news:cbmpf4$a55$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
HollyS wrote:
I have the border set to zero -can anyone tell me how can I get rid
of the dotted line box that appears around linked/rollover images
when you click on them??

Thanks in advance!!!

You shouldn't really get rid of them, they are there for accessibility
purposes. If you have your borders set to 0, that should be enough.


--
Nadia
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Mad Dog
 
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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 01:12 PM



Of course you can do it as you and your client like. As with what viewport
to design a site for (or make it flexible) and a zillion other decisions,
it's your choice. If you want to get rid of these, check out the SCRUBBER
extension at http://www.projectseven.com/extensions/index.htm

There's also an extension to remove the scrubber should you change your mind
later.

MD



E. T. Culling wrote:
Quote:
You mean that I MUST make my site accessible?? Shouldn't that be my
choice or my client's choice?
Eleanor

"Jimmy Collins" <mceldon (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:cbmq28$aol$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
HollyS,

They may not look nice to the majority of people, but to people with
disabilities it's an invaluable aid to navigation (especially those
who TAB around websites).

Forum users should take note - you Ozzies guys set the precendent of
accessible websites with that guy and the Olympic Games website.
Here in the UK, legislation comes into force October 2004 that WILL
allow users who feel discluded to seek damages in a court of law
(and rightly so, in my opinion) http://w3c.org

JC
":. Nadia .:" <forums@-ozzie-perrelink.com.au> wrote in message
news:cbmpf4$a55$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
HollyS wrote:
I have the border set to zero -can anyone tell me how can I get rid
of the dotted line box that appears around linked/rollover images
when you click on them??

Thanks in advance!!!

You shouldn't really get rid of them, they are there for
accessibility purposes. If you have your borders set to 0, that
should be enough.


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Jimmy Collins
 
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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 02:23 PM



Eleanor,

There are many factors to take into consideration, the following only
applies English law see DDA 1995
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/1995050.htm

This is for free BTW, if your site is deemed within the law to be offering a
business service, then it will come under DDA legislation - basically if you
sell, offer commercial advice, offer third party provision etc, you will be
deemed to be a 'service provider' and therefore fall under this act.

I'm not a lawyer, but have recently attended seminars on the impact of this
on our own company and our clients.

The above information is entirely my own interpretation and does not seek to
offer legal advice in any way.

Regards,

JC

"E. T. Culling" <etcetc (AT) notatcrcwnet (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
You mean that I MUST make my site accessible?? Shouldn't that be my choice
or my client's choice?
Eleanor

"Jimmy Collins" <mceldon (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:cbmq28$aol$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
HollyS,

They may not look nice to the majority of people, but to people with
disabilities it's an invaluable aid to navigation (especially those who
TAB
around websites).

Forum users should take note - you Ozzies guys set the precendent of
accessible websites with that guy and the Olympic Games website. Here in
the
UK, legislation comes into force October 2004 that WILL allow users who
feel
discluded to seek damages in a court of law (and rightly so, in my
opinion)
http://w3c.org

JC
":. Nadia .:" <forums@-ozzie-perrelink.com.au> wrote in message
news:cbmpf4$a55$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
HollyS wrote:
I have the border set to zero -can anyone tell me how can I get rid
of the dotted line box that appears around linked/rollover images
when you click on them??

Thanks in advance!!!

You shouldn't really get rid of them, they are there for accessibility
purposes. If you have your borders set to 0, that should be enough.


--
Nadia
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Peter Connolly
 
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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 02:43 PM



E. T. Culling wrote:
Quote:
You mean that I MUST make my site accessible?? Shouldn't that be my
choice or my client's choice?
I'm with you on this one Eleanor, but UK law will say differently.

I once discussed accessibillity with a client; his reply was, "How many
blind people are going to buy tractors?".

Perhaps you should put a disclaimer in all the legal stuff on the site
stating the objective of the site and the desired readership, and
specifically exclude other-abled people. Then they can't complain, because
they've accepted the terms!

.....but also, remember that in the UK, statute law is written by the
government, and it means nothing until tested under case law. It can be
thrown out upon appeal to the law lords. For examples, see most laws
introduced by Blunkett over the past few years. I don't think we have
anything to fear until the first person is locked away for producing a web
site that is not accessible.

(btw, I think that it is a good thing to produce sites that are accessible,
but I will do it to match the requirements of my client and the sites
audience)

Regards,

Pete.

--
Peter Connolly
http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
Derby
UK




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thenovice
 
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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 03:07 PM




"Jimmy Collins" <mceldon (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Eleanor,

There are many factors to take into consideration, the following only
applies English law see DDA 1995
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/1995050.htm

This is for free BTW, if your site is deemed within the law to be offering
a
business service, then it will come under DDA legislation - basically if
you
sell, offer commercial advice, offer third party provision etc, you will
be
deemed to be a 'service provider' and therefore fall under this act.

I'm not a lawyer, but have recently attended seminars on the impact of
this
on our own company and our clients.

The above information is entirely my own interpretation and does not seek
to
offer legal advice in any way.

Regards,

JC
Good post and nicely put, apart from the fact you said business service. I
think you will find that the Act applies to "any" service and the use of the
word "business", IMHO, tends to convey the meaning that money is involved.
The Act, however, applies just as much to services that are provided
freely, i.e. non-profit disability information service web site.

Lots of 404's in this area just lately.

Regards

Terry





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Jimmy Collins
 
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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 03:17 PM



Pete,

I hope not to moralise (or legalise!) on a macromedia forum, but i think
other users of DWMX - a tool that allows us to pretty much forget about
what's good practice is, should hear this.

"I don't think we have
Quote:
anything to fear until the first person is locked away for producing a web
site that is not accessible."
Maguire V SOCOG suggests otherwise, plus, the day creative people, like
those on this forum, take responsibility for the sites they create, will be
a great day.

Pete, I'm pleased that there are a few developers out there who at least
take it into consideration.

JC


"Peter Connolly" <newsgroupsdemon (AT) removethisbitacutecomputing (DOT) co.uk> wrote
in message news:cbn4ft$t8o$1$830fa17d (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Quote:
E. T. Culling wrote:
You mean that I MUST make my site accessible?? Shouldn't that be my
choice or my client's choice?

I'm with you on this one Eleanor, but UK law will say differently.

I once discussed accessibillity with a client; his reply was, "How many
blind people are going to buy tractors?".

Perhaps you should put a disclaimer in all the legal stuff on the site
stating the objective of the site and the desired readership, and
specifically exclude other-abled people. Then they can't complain, because
they've accepted the terms!

....but also, remember that in the UK, statute law is written by the
government, and it means nothing until tested under case law. It can be
thrown out upon appeal to the law lords. For examples, see most laws
introduced by Blunkett over the past few years. I don't think we have
anything to fear until the first person is locked away for producing a web
site that is not accessible.

(btw, I think that it is a good thing to produce sites that are
accessible,
but I will do it to match the requirements of my client and the sites
audience)

Regards,

Pete.

--
Peter Connolly
http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
Derby
UK





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Jimmy Collins
 
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Default Re: Dotted line around images..... - 06-27-2004 , 03:23 PM



Terry,

Thanks for putting me right on that - My feeling is that the business
community seems to think they're not included, never mind non-profit orgs.

Here's hoping...

Regards,

JC
"thenovice" <terryuse (AT) btopenworld (DOT) spam.com> wrote

Quote:
"Jimmy Collins" <mceldon (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:cbn3ab$jj1$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Eleanor,

There are many factors to take into consideration, the following only
applies English law see DDA 1995
http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts1995/1995050.htm

This is for free BTW, if your site is deemed within the law to be
offering
a
business service, then it will come under DDA legislation - basically if
you
sell, offer commercial advice, offer third party provision etc, you will
be
deemed to be a 'service provider' and therefore fall under this act.

I'm not a lawyer, but have recently attended seminars on the impact of
this
on our own company and our clients.

The above information is entirely my own interpretation and does not
seek
to
offer legal advice in any way.

Regards,

JC

Good post and nicely put, apart from the fact you said business service.
I
think you will find that the Act applies to "any" service and the use of
the
word "business", IMHO, tends to convey the meaning that money is involved.
The Act, however, applies just as much to services that are provided
freely, i.e. non-profit disability information service web site.

Lots of 404's in this area just lately.

Regards

Terry






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