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DJ Website Designer
 
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Default Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 02:30 PM






Anyone Know if Dreamweaver Offers an Easy WYSIWYG Editor?

I have Dreamweaver 8, but is is apparently not a WYSIWYG, (nothing that I see
is what I get... It's more like a NWYSIWYG).

Just looking for a simple, stand alone WYSIWYG editor with ability to open
existing websites and keep file structure, while enabling me to point, click
and publish. Suggestions?


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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 02:38 PM






DW is WYSIWYG (to some degree - it doesn't display the same as every
variety of browser might render your page). If you are looking for a
"simple" tool - DW is not it. Most "simple" WYSIWYG web design tools
write bloated sloppy and often invalid code. Reality is - there is no
short cut. If you want to create web sites that work in a majority of
browsers for a majority of users, you need to learn the languages -
XHTML and CSS.

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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 02:38 PM



Quote:
Suggestions?
DW is not your tool. If you are not willing or interested to take the time
to learn HTML and CSS, you will find DW to be a continuing struggle.

--
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Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
==================


"DJ Website Designer" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Anyone Know if Dreamweaver Offers an Easy WYSIWYG Editor?

I have Dreamweaver 8, but is is apparently not a WYSIWYG, (nothing that I
see
is what I get... It's more like a NWYSIWYG).

Just looking for a simple, stand alone WYSIWYG editor with ability to open
existing websites and keep file structure, while enabling me to point,
click
and publish. Suggestions?



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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 02:40 PM



Quote:
I have Dreamweaver 8, but is is apparently not a WYSIWYG, (nothing that I
see
is what I get... It's more like a NWYSIWYG).
The web isn't WYSIWYG.

At best it's 'what you see is maybe what some people will sort of see to
some extent depending on a whole bunch of variables'

Quote:
Just looking for a simple, stand alone WYSIWYG editor with ability to open
existing websites and keep file structure, while enabling me to point,
click
and publish. Suggestions?
Well, Dreamweaver certainly isn't that. Unfortunately, the closer one gets
to a true WYSIWYG site builder, the crappier, messier, more bloated, less
accessible the actual markup becomes, so it's a huge tradeoff.

-Darrel




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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 02:47 PM



nope, they do not. and i'm not sure there is one in existence. you can
use Dreamweaver to work on an existing website, you just don't know how
to do it yet and seem to think the answers are going to just jump out at
you. it's really not that difficult a program to learn, but you do have
to put some effort into it.

i'd like to suggest that you open the Dreamweaver help file by clicking
Help up at the top of the window and select Getting Started with
Dreamweaver, and just start at the beginning. most or all of your
questions will probably be answered within the first few tutorials. it's
fairly easy once you know where everything is.


DJ Website Designer wrote:
Quote:
Anyone Know if Dreamweaver Offers an Easy WYSIWYG Editor?

I have Dreamweaver 8, but is is apparently not a WYSIWYG, (nothing that I see
is what I get... It's more like a NWYSIWYG).

Just looking for a simple, stand alone WYSIWYG editor with ability to open
existing websites and keep file structure, while enabling me to point, click
and publish. Suggestions?



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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 02:51 PM



Quote:
Just looking for a simple, stand alone WYSIWYG editor with ability to open
existing websites and keep file structure, while enabling me to point,
click
and publish. Suggestions?

Since you say you're just looking to edit existing sites and not create new
ones, have you looked at Adobe Contribute? It's designed for editing
existing content. There is a 30 day free trial.


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Co-Author: Dreamweaver MX: Instant Troubleshooter (August, 2003)
Technical Editor: Dreamweaver CS3: The Missing Manual,
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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 03:09 PM



Thanks Murray. Too bad you're advice is not referred to Macromedia's Marketing
Team, which advertises it to the public as "Quickly and easily design, develop,
and maintain websites and web applications ? from start to finish ..." and then
of course, the "requirements" don't mention anything about needing a degree in
physics or CSS and XHTML to use it.

I know how to manipulate HTML and do basic coding using TextPad and Notpad,
but I am spoiled by true WYSIWYG editors. I was really expecting MUCH more
usability from Dreamweaver. It's ashame they don't offer a product like that.
I've been using Fireworks for years and assumed thatbeing created by the same
company it to would be simple.

[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
Quote:
Suggestions?
DW is not your tool. If you are not willing or interested to take the time
to learn HTML and CSS, you will find DW to be a continuing struggle.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
==================


"DJ Website Designer" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Anyone Know if Dreamweaver Offers an Easy WYSIWYG Editor?

I have Dreamweaver 8, but is is apparently not a WYSIWYG, (nothing that I
see
is what I get... It's more like a NWYSIWYG).

Just looking for a simple, stand alone WYSIWYG editor with ability to open
existing websites and keep file structure, while enabling me to point,
click
and publish. Suggestions?

[/q]





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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 03:23 PM



Quote:
Thanks Murray. Too bad you're advice is not referred to Macromedia's
Marketing
Team, which advertises it to the public as "Quickly and easily design,
develop,
and maintain websites and web applications ? from start to finish ..." and
then
of course, the "requirements" don't mention anything about needing a
degree in
physics or CSS and XHTML to use it.
Heh...NEVER trust marketing literature...ESPECIALLY when it comes to
software. ;o)

-Darrel




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courtney (n h c)
 
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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 03:32 PM



well, like i mentioned in my response to your original post, it is
pretty quick and easy to do basic stuff once you learn the program. if
you want to be good at using Dreamweaver and designing websites, you're
going to have learn how to do it, just like anything else. were you a
Fireworks expert the first time you opened the program?

and i'd like to add to what Murray said, and point out that it's not
just DW that will be a continuous struggle if you refuse to learn CSS
and HTML, but web design as a whole. Dreamweaver makes designing
websites easier, but there are certain fundamentals that you just have
to know if you want your site to be any good.

and the only requirement for learning Dreamweaver is a computer that can
run it and the ability to read.

DJ Website Designer wrote:
Quote:
Thanks Murray. Too bad you're advice is not referred to Macromedia's Marketing
Team, which advertises it to the public as "Quickly and easily design, develop,
and maintain websites and web applications ? from start to finish ..." and then
of course, the "requirements" don't mention anything about needing a degree in
physics or CSS and XHTML to use it.

I know how to manipulate HTML and do basic coding using TextPad and Notpad,
but I am spoiled by true WYSIWYG editors. I was really expecting MUCH more
usability from Dreamweaver. It's ashame they don't offer a product like that.
I've been using Fireworks for years and assumed thatbeing created by the same
company it to would be simple.

[q]Originally posted by: Newsgroup User
Suggestions?

DW is not your tool. If you are not willing or interested to take the time
to learn HTML and CSS, you will find DW to be a continuing struggle.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
==================


"DJ Website Designer" <webforumsuser (AT) macromedia (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Anyone Know if Dreamweaver Offers an Easy WYSIWYG Editor?

I have Dreamweaver 8, but is is apparently not a WYSIWYG, (nothing that I
see
is what I get... It's more like a NWYSIWYG).

Just looking for a simple, stand alone WYSIWYG editor with ability to open
existing websites and keep file structure, while enabling me to point,
click
and publish. Suggestions?


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Default Re: Does Dreamweaver Offer a WYSIWYG? - 01-03-2008 , 04:46 PM



Quote:
I know how to manipulate HTML and do basic coding using TextPad and Notpad,
but I am spoiled by true WYSIWYG editors.
There is no such thing as a true WYSIWYG editor for the web because all
browsers render html with slight differences. However, the design view of DW is
usually close to what you will see in most browsers. If it isn't then it is
most often due to invalid code or to a DW design view feature that is or is not
enabled. Do you have an example website where you are experiencing this problem?



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