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Murray *TMM*
 
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Default Re: doc types - 10-30-2005 , 02:47 PM






I see - they used the Macromedia HALO template for that.

Try this. Scroll your page so that the global menu links are right at the
top of the viewport margin. Now mouse over the links. See your subglobal
menus? I didn't think so....

But I'm not sure I understand your question - can you elaborate?

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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
The page I'm still working on is here:
http://www.petpiazza.com/testing/2006/oz2.asp

Some of the links are null right now, so if you want examples of the URLs
then check out the calendar, poll "view results"...etc...

Thanks!

Dan



"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Show me the page, please Dan.

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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Gotcha. Now, why in the HTML Validator it complained about my style
sheet link being terminated? I took out the /> and it went through.

Also, the way the site was set up (pre-bought package - but have made
numerous fixes and changes), the addresses have ...well, not sure what
they are called...but they have @ and i and n and = to continue the url.
I know I can fix the @ by doing the &amp; to validate, but what about
the other characters? How do I fix these urls so that the page
validates?


"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
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No. Strict HTML4 is not "well-formed HTML" in that it still have
non-terminated tags, e.g.,

br>, <img>, <meta>, etc.

In well-formed HTML, every tag is terminated, even if that means it
must be done within the tag itself, e.g.,

br /
img /
meta /

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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Can't I use "well-formed HTML" and use the HTML Strict doctype as
opposed to the XHTML though?
well formed html is well formed html whether or not you use HTML
doctype or XHTML doctype is it not? I only say that because you said
that would be the only benefit of using the XHTML doctype....



"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
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That would be one take on it, yes. If you are not using XML/XSLT,
then the only benefit using XHTML carries is the rigor of learning
and using 'well-formed HTML' - not an insubstantial benefit, but not
a necessary one, either.

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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
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but what's the deal with the xhtml strict/loose? Just incorprates
XML coding? So, if I'm not using XML, I shouldn't use it as a
doctype right?


"Lionstone" <HIDElionstone (AT) HIDEhushmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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It identifies what kind of code you'll be writing. Improperly
identifying your code could lead to unexpected results when the
page is displayed. The last version of DW used HTML 4.01
Transitional by default, if you'd like to stick with that. Trying
out a Strict docytype and getting your code to validate against the
W3C validator is a good indication that you're up on web standards
and have a well-formed page.


"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
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What are the differences between the doctypes? Which one should we
use? Does it depend on what type of code you are using? Why are
there so many choices?

Thanks!






















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Dan Galfano
 
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Default Re: doc types - 10-31-2005 , 07:55 AM






no no no. I know. You told me that. I haven't fixed the top nav menu yet.
I'm talking about the actual URLs.

For example, mouse over on the side menu for message boards. Notice the URL:
http://www.petpiazza.com/Topics/default.asp?iChannel=16&nChannel=Topics

See after the default.asp?iChannel=16&n...

When I check the validator, it brings up all these errors (because there are
so many links that have these dynamic urls) complaining about the "i" and
the "&" and the "n" and the "=". I fixed the & hang up by changing it to the
&amp; but I don't know how to fix the others to let the page be validated.

got me?



"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I see - they used the Macromedia HALO template for that.

Try this. Scroll your page so that the global menu links are right at the
top of the viewport margin. Now mouse over the links. See your subglobal
menus? I didn't think so....

But I'm not sure I understand your question - can you elaborate?

--
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http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dk0jcc$is5$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
The page I'm still working on is here:
http://www.petpiazza.com/testing/2006/oz2.asp

Some of the links are null right now, so if you want examples of the URLs
then check out the calendar, poll "view results"...etc...

Thanks!

Dan



"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Show me the page, please Dan.

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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dk0dnc$bpk$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Gotcha. Now, why in the HTML Validator it complained about my style
sheet link being terminated? I took out the /> and it went through.

Also, the way the site was set up (pre-bought package - but have made
numerous fixes and changes), the addresses have ...well, not sure what
they are called...but they have @ and i and n and = to continue the
url. I know I can fix the @ by doing the &amp; to validate, but what
about the other characters? How do I fix these urls so that the page
validates?


"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dk0a5i$781$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
No. Strict HTML4 is not "well-formed HTML" in that it still have
non-terminated tags, e.g.,

br>, <img>, <meta>, etc.

In well-formed HTML, every tag is terminated, even if that means it
must be done within the tag itself, e.g.,

br /
img /
meta /

--
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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dk06ua$36i$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
Can't I use "well-formed HTML" and use the HTML Strict doctype as
opposed to the XHTML though?
well formed html is well formed html whether or not you use HTML
doctype or XHTML doctype is it not? I only say that because you said
that would be the only benefit of using the XHTML doctype....



"Murray *TMM*" <forums (AT) HAHAgreat-web-sights (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:djvtlu$kob$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
That would be one take on it, yes. If you are not using XML/XSLT,
then the only benefit using XHTML carries is the rigor of learning
and using 'well-formed HTML' - not an insubstantial benefit, but not
a necessary one, either.

--
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"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dju7eg$d81$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
but what's the deal with the xhtml strict/loose? Just incorprates
XML coding? So, if I'm not using XML, I shouldn't use it as a
doctype right?


"Lionstone" <HIDElionstone (AT) HIDEhushmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dju710$clq$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
It identifies what kind of code you'll be writing. Improperly
identifying your code could lead to unexpected results when the
page is displayed. The last version of DW used HTML 4.01
Transitional by default, if you'd like to stick with that. Trying
out a Strict docytype and getting your code to validate against
the W3C validator is a good indication that you're up on web
standards and have a well-formed page.


"Dan Galfano" <daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:dju68g$bn2$1 (AT) forums (DOT) macromedia.com...
What are the differences between the doctypes? Which one should
we use? Does it depend on what type of code you are using? Why
are there so many choices?

Thanks!
























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Gary White
 
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Default Re: doc types - 10-31-2005 , 08:50 AM



On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:55:49 -0500, "Dan Galfano"
<daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I fixed the & hang up by changing it to the
&amp; but I don't know how to fix the others to let the page be validated.

Changing the & to &amp; should be all you need.

Gary


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Dan Galfano
 
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Default Re: doc types - 10-31-2005 , 08:58 AM



really? I only tried a few, but I'll get the rest of them switched over.
Hopefully that will be it. Thanks!

Dan


"Gary White" <reply (AT) newsgroup (DOT) please> wrote

Quote:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:55:49 -0500, "Dan Galfano"
daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote:

I fixed the & hang up by changing it to the
&amp; but I don't know how to fix the others to let the page be validated.


Changing the & to &amp; should be all you need.

Gary



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Gary White
 
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Default Re: doc types - 10-31-2005 , 11:55 AM



On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:58:33 -0500, "Dan Galfano"
<daniel (AT) galfanodesign (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
really? I only tried a few, but I'll get the rest of them switched over.
Hopefully that will be it. Thanks!

You're welcome. The problem you ran into was that after encountering the
"&" in the link, the validator tried to look at the following characters
to find a character entity. That's where the "n" was coming from because
it couldn't make an entity out of nChannel. Thus, it complained about
that. Once you give it a proper character entity, &amp;, it should not
complain about the rest.

Gary


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